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ouri.maler Sep 7, 2020 @ 3:50pm
How many curse research projects for secret boss?
I'm currently entering the final phase of my first playthrough, and I THINK I've managed to research 14 curse projects so far. I've reached the part where I get the First Crown, and I'm trying to decide what to do with it.

From the guide to the true ending, I understand I need to have researched 13 out of 16 curse projects (and have Briar, and have chosen the right dialogue options...) to free Nyrissa from her curse. Got it. But I also understand there's an option to turn her curse on the Lantern King. Do I automatically get that if I free Nyrissa, or are there even harsher requirements? Should I keep the crown to research it, rather than free the ghost of the elven king then and there?
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Originally posted by BlueBangkok:
The First Crown is for a different ending and is not tied to the secret ending you're talking about, OP. All you need for the secret ending is in the guide you mentioned.
As for your spoiler question:
During the last conversation with the defeated Lantern King, you have all the options you would normally have (steal his power, try to kill him, etc.) but if you freed Nyrissa and did everything right, you will also have a new option: "Now, Nyrissa, do it like we planned!" Which prompts Nyrissa to curse the Lantern King. This is the only way to get the best secret ending. Also, the crown isn't really needed for this ending, in fact, it's mutually exclusive. You can keep it or free Lethoriel, it won't make a difference if you're going for the secret ending. What you need is Lantern King's mask and advice from three Eldest (Shyka, Lost Prince and Maghd). You will get that during the quest "You Shall Reap" in Act 7. You can't get that quest unless you gave the real Briar to Nyrissa thus restored her soul and romanced her and talked her out of fighting at the HATEOT. So after you pass that conversation it's pretty railroaded from there and you can't really miss things.
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BenSt88 Sep 7, 2020 @ 7:42pm 
I haven't done this myself (yet), but I believe at this point you want to give the Crown to Shyka the Many, and he will be instrumental in turning the curse on the Lantern King. Unless I've confused 2 different possible endings. I don't think you want to release the bound wizard, but don't quote me on that. It just seems like giving it whole to Shyka is the better choice.

Maybe keep a master save just in case, though.
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Tuidjy Sep 7, 2020 @ 7:51pm 
You definitely can get the best ending - Lantern King defeated and cursed, even if you free the elven ghost by giving him the crown.
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BenSt88 Sep 7, 2020 @ 8:01pm 
Originally posted by Tuidjy:
You definitely can get the best ending - Lantern King defeated and cursed, even if you free the elven ghost by giving him the crown.
It's too bad that wasn't behind spoiler tags, but too late now. Anyway, I might have been thinking of an Achievement, wherein you give the Crown to Shyka and he will help you against the LK later. Quite possible I mixed up 2 different endings.
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Kurosu Sep 7, 2020 @ 10:35pm 
Originally posted by BenSt88:
Originally posted by Tuidjy:
You definitely can get the best ending - Lantern King defeated and cursed, even if you free the elven ghost by giving him the crown.
It's too bad that wasn't behind spoiler tags, but too late now. Anyway, I might have been thinking of an Achievement, wherein you give the Crown to Shyka and he will help you against the LK later. Quite possible I mixed up 2 different endings.

Yes that is a different ending, I think the description goes like " help her make a joke " or something among this lines . In order to get it you need to 1)complete the crown quest by giving to Shyka 2) Do not kill Nyrisa but also do not romance her nor give her the briar . Bear in mind the game ends at that part and the final part is skipped.
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BlueBangkok Sep 8, 2020 @ 1:07am 
The First Crown is for a different ending and is not tied to the secret ending you're talking about, OP. All you need for the secret ending is in the guide you mentioned.
As for your spoiler question:
During the last conversation with the defeated Lantern King, you have all the options you would normally have (steal his power, try to kill him, etc.) but if you freed Nyrissa and did everything right, you will also have a new option: "Now, Nyrissa, do it like we planned!" Which prompts Nyrissa to curse the Lantern King. This is the only way to get the best secret ending. Also, the crown isn't really needed for this ending, in fact, it's mutually exclusive. You can keep it or free Lethoriel, it won't make a difference if you're going for the secret ending. What you need is Lantern King's mask and advice from three Eldest (Shyka, Lost Prince and Maghd). You will get that during the quest "You Shall Reap" in Act 7. You can't get that quest unless you gave the real Briar to Nyrissa thus restored her soul and romanced her and talked her out of fighting at the HATEOT. So after you pass that conversation it's pretty railroaded from there and you can't really miss things.
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ouri.maler Sep 8, 2020 @ 10:10am 
Thanks, much obliged.
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