Normal or Turn based ?

[The Hand]

Just wanna hear thoughts on the difference.

[Kurosu]

I havent played much on turn based yet, but from the looks of it it seems easier ( especially when using casters) at the cost of combat being much MUCH slower. Compared to the fact that the game is about 100hours long with normal combat I dont want to imagine what happens on a pure 100% turn based playthrough

[Razorblade]

Oof, you just opened a can of worms that you weren't prepared for. Flame war incoming.

[DrunkPunk]

The great thing about this game is you can do both! I dig turn based but I definitely use both combat systems depending on the fight.

[jsaving]

Turn based is quite a bit easier because you can know exactly who your AoE spells will hit, whereas in RTwP you often end up missing some of your intended targets because they've run out of the way. But either mode works well and in a single-player game you should use whichever one you like best!

[PossiblePsycho]

I assume, you don't have any preexisting preferences if you're asking this question, so why not just experiment with both? You can swap modes anytime (even mid-battle), after all. Personally, I prefer TB, but that's just me, I prefer TB in general, haven't even tried playing this game in RT.

[Diomedes]

Turn based.. The classes and entire pathfinder ruleset was designed around turn based.. Certain class mechanics that are massive upgrades are almost completely trivialized in RTWP..
Take for instance Bard having performance being made into a move action instead of a standard action.. In turn based that means they can do that on top of casting a spell or attacking..
In real time this becomes a complete chore of microing every battle to even get any kind of use of this ability.
RTWP is really only better for plowing through fodder.

[Farsha]

Both are great, game gets lot more tactical in turnbased and spells that are not party buffs are actually useful in this mode.
Also you will learn the combat mechanics way better in turnbased mode (full, standard, swift and free actions and also initiative system are actually completely lost in RTWP)
But yea game is around 300hrs in Turbased mode I'd guess ( I'm begining of chapter 4 after 120hrs)
But I enjoy it a lot more and some classes that were really meh in RTWP really shine in turnbased mode.
But be warned there are bugs in turnbased mode ( the fear one is really anoying atm)

[The Hand]

Originally posted by PossiblePsycho:

I assume, you don't have any preexisting preferences if you're asking this qustion, so why not just experiment with both? You can swap modes anytime (even mid-battle), after all. Personally, I prefer TB, but that's just me, I prefer TB in general, haven't even tried playing this game in RT.

kinda I have played divinity oringal sin 1 and 2 and wasteland 2 and a few other rpg games. So i have more time with turn based games but I also have played dragon age origins and remember enjoying that. I think I've played pillars of enternity but not sure and I can't recall to many games using the real time tactics for squad based rpgs.

[The Hand]

Originally posted by Farsha:

But be warned there are bugs in turnbased mode ( the fear one is really anoying atm)

Damn i remember why i stopped playing last time. I found a camp sight and fought something that feared me and i didnt relize there was turn-based mode so when my whole party got feared and went to different parts of the map far away from each other

[Immortal Reaver]

On Unfair Pure TB is way Harder in the begining. Enemies almost always start turn first and since you will be flatfooted they will hit most of the time, and oneshoting everybody other than rage+buffed Amiri. A lot of my Optional Bosses cheese (Viscount Smoulderburn, etc.) with Jaethal is way too annoying and 7 or more times slower.

On RTwP it is easier to just send fully buffed Val to get every monster then cast Grease and Web and mop up everything in Melee with Freedom of Movement buff.

TB is just so much slower, and if you are one of better players that can build OP party that easily kills enemies on Hard, then there is no reason to slow the pace down.
Edit: To add you can stall your actions in RTwP and cast that spell when you want it to go off. You can run away in RTwP, until all creatures start with 0.0 on action icon, meaning nobody is flatfooted.

[=[NK]= Col. Jack O'Neil]

Your can swap it on the fly mid battle.. So just play what you enjoy

[Swiff]

I totally like the idea, to switch between the two modes "on the fly". For me: every harder encounter/ unknown enemies i use TB and for easy known enemies/Trashmobs i just RT them away ;-)

[The Hand]

Originally posted by =NK= Col. Jack O'Neil:

Your can swap it on the fly mid battle.. So just play what you enjoy

Yeah i just want thoughts on the subject maybe some info on the diffrence it makes

[=[NK]= Col. Jack O'Neil]

The original mod was less buggy than owlcats implementation.

Pathfinder is a tactical turn based game at its core. Full of free and swift actions. Tb let's you maximise your planning and action economy.

For me I like the slower paced battles (I'm an xcom fan). But owlcat have put so much filler combat in this game as well, so switching for the battles that are dumb filler combat is fine

[Ishan451]

Originally posted by The Hand:

Normal or Turn based ?
Just wanna hear thoughts on the difference.

Its a toggle you can turn on and off in the midst of battle. Choose the one you like more.


The underlying ruleset was designed for turnbased, so to me turnbased is the way to play it. I enjoy it so much more that i abandoned my playthrough to start over in turnbased.