Why is the Game Giving me Cr 11 random Encounters for my level 5 party?

[rman88]

This is not some boss or some random event that can be avoided. This is a random encounter just 1 region away from my captial that is a death setnace for my team. Thou to be specfic it is a elder water elemetnal! Don't ask me why a creature form the plane of water is doing in the middle of of the stolen lands. Then again i seen one where they sent 2 Elder Fire Elementals after me.

Fix your dam encounters becuase if this was a Real game of pathfinder. My players would have gave me the middle finger and left. This is not how you run pathfinder.

[rman88]

to be honest i don't mind the random encounters. While they are tailered to my party ranging from equal cr to +1 or -1 for a bit of varriation.

Granted sending me a cr 11 monster.. or two to fight me. Is more or less a death sentance. That said sure if you want some late game boss you can go revisit then sure go ahead. But this is a random encounter. one that you cannot even run away unless you chease it. Which i did i just summoned a bunch of undead and ran out of aggro range.

[Brian Sirith]

Different CR is fine, if it were possible to "run away and come back later" like they write on their loading tips.

As it is its dumb. Reloading is not an in game solution.

Ps. And yup. Thats exactly what would have happened in PnP. I got hell for a boss with 15-20 crit :P Freaking sugarpuffs!

[KOHb]

It's location dependant. You must be prowling near high level location?

[rman88]

the locatin is right next to the first city. i am not half way across the map. in fact this is the second region you can annex into your empire.

[corisai]

Originally posted by rman88:

This is not some boss or some random event that can be avoided. This is a random encounter just 1 region away from my captial that is a death setnace for my team.

What region?

Because this often happen when you're travelling in region that intended for far higher level (for example - any exploration on north/weast past Verdant Chambers will lead to such situations).

It's open world game - you shouldn't expect to explore whole map from Day 1.

[Brian Sirith]

Originally posted by rman88:

the locatin is right next to the first city. i am not half way across the map. in fact this is the second region you can annex into your empire.

Theres 2 crazy encounters early in game. 1. Wererat cave (next to the city) 2. Elder elememtals (random encounter)

All you can do sadly is reload.

[rman88]

ok the Region is kamelands. its south of your captial. Which is one of the two areas you have to explore. Thou this one is tired to harams quest and leads you to getting a badass belt. Note the reason you need to explore it is so you can get your third region in order to upgrade your captail to a town.

that said not going to lie the rats are annoying. but with a bit of luck and alot of cc you can easily beet them. just get linsy to get hold person and hedious laughter. Granted i am playing on a modified difaculty of normal crits and dmg with weak enemies.

That siad long story short i shouldn't be facing such high foes in most of these regions. its not like i am way over in thousand voices or some place far far away.

Also, i should note i been told the game ends around level 17. so you should be at least 2/3 done with the game before even seeing these high level mobs.

[corisai]

Originally posted by rman88:

ok the Region is kamelands. its south of your captial. Which is one of the two areas you have to explore. Thou this one is tired to harams quest and leads you to getting a badass belt. Note the reason you need to explore it is so you can get your third region in order to upgrade your captail to a town.

Narlmarhces (both) are intended to be third region.

Kamelands are intended to be explored after Troll Wars (with you party around 8+ lvl).

So yean, you get into high-level location and get unlucky roll for random enemy.

[rman88]

ya not going to lie i dont see that as a truth. as the second encounter i had in that region. was nothing more then 6 goblins.. 6 goblins are not the equilvent cr rating as a elder elmental.

also funny bit is my party is strong enough to take on cr level 9 monsters. as i just killed a mastadon in 3 turns by summong a hord of undead to tank it. and wailing on it with everyone else .

[Trip]

Cuz Owlcat was barely out of alpha when they released, they had no time to fine tune and balance the game. Hopefully they will get around to improving it once they get done with patching out the bugs.

This is just my humble opinion though, so take it witrh a grain of salt.

[corisai]

Originally posted by rman88:

also funny bit is my party is strong enough to take on cr level 9 monsters. as i just killed a mastadon in 3 turns by summong a hord of undead to tank it. and wailing on it with everyone else .

What's strange? Your party have EPL of 7. So CR9 is perfectly doable (+2 levels from your).

[rman88]

well seems like you are correct. Then again the mammoth was only hitting the undead for about 22 damage a strike. not like the elder elmental which was cleaving, hitting my entire party. dealing about 30 to 40 damage a hit and dealing some sort of posion damage. i don't know all i recall was anyone that got hit had to make a fort save.

Regardless thou a cr 11 encounter wasn't going to happen. maby if i had time to buff up and prepare before hand. But the thing was spawned directly on me. So not much i could have done about it.

Anyway, you know what lets drop the whole talking about rules and think. What exactly was this creature doing hear to begin with? Outsiders rarely appear on the material plane without some form of outside intervention. Such as a mage trying to summon a creature that they couldn't control. Or tied to the location in some form of way for example a water elmental might appear in the middle of a lake.

This one was in the middle of nowhere, not even a puddle to be found on the map. so why did this creature exist to begin with? its not a group of bandits or wild beast looking for a meal. it is a outsider form one of the elmental planes. it souldn't be able to get to the material world to begin with. So why is it a random encounter?

[corisai]

Originally posted by rman88:

So why is it a random encounter?

You're forgetting about First World influence. Plus River Kingdoms are nearby large community of undines, so their tied with water magic are strong.

[rman88]

So you going to explane why neither fey nor undines were at the helm of this water elmental? as their is in genral no context for it. no one commanding the creature. so as far as we know it just existed because the game said it existed.

Also that don't explane for example the 2 elder fire elmental encounter i once had. creatures that in all honest wouldn't be allied in any form or way with fey or undines.

Granted, you could also say that about the endless stream of kobolds, goblins, bandits, that come out of the woodwork to attack you. Even thou you been commiting genocide on those fractions.