Are the natural armor bonuses supposed to stack ?

[Sephiroth]

I thought same bonuses were not supposed to stack.
So
1.legendary proportions
2. Frightful aspect
3. Dragonform3

The natural armor for these spells stack.
(which is nice I like it)

But I want to know if this is an un-fixed glitch or this is normal. Be nice to know in case they release a patch. Also before I start my next play of the game.

[Pink Eye]

Dodge stacks.
Natural armor stacks.
Armor does not stack.
Deflection does not stack.
Certain bonuses do not stack.

[haplok]

Well, its a bit complicated, different sources should stack, same sources should not.

So inherent natural armor (for example dragon disciple) should stack with natural armor bonus (various polymorph spells), enhancement (like amulet, barkskin) and probably also size bonus (like Legendary Proportions).
It does seem a bit buggy here, though.

LP doesn't seem to stack with enhancement bonuses (barkskin/ammy/other items). Frightful Aspect, Transformation and other sources of natural armor bonuses seem to stack - when they should not.

[Pink Eye]

Originally posted by haplok:

Well, its a bit complicated, different sources should stack, same sources should not.

So inherent natural armor (for example dragon disciple) should stack with natural armor bonus (various polymorph spells), enhancement (like amulet, barkskin) and probably also size bonus (like Legendary Proportions).
It does seem a bit buggy here, though.

LP doesn't seem to stack with enhancement bonuses (barkskin/ammy/other items). Frightful Aspect, Transformation and other sources of natural armor bonuses seem to stack - when they should not.

Huh, maybe I need to review my stats more carefully next time.

[superlovi]

All dodge and circumstance bonus stack

All other bonuses with same name: higher is applied, all other suppressed : es if you have 2 ring of deflection, 1 is +1 and the other +2, and you wear both, you get only the +2 deflection bonus, the +1 is suppressed.

If you have dodge (+1 ac) + the bard song that gives you +4 dodge ac you get 5 bonus ac

[Mork]

there is 2 kind of natural armor. Natural armor and natural armor enhancement

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1819161726

[superlovi]

Originally posted by Mork:

there is 2 kind of natural armor. Natural armor and natural armor enhancement

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1819161726

Yes, but i bet that natural armor bonus amulet and barskin are both "natural armor enhanchment" so i think they don't stack.

[haplok]

Originally posted by Mork:

there is 2 kind of natural armor. Natural armor and natural armor enhancement

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1819161726

Not only 2. There's also Inherent natural armor (like Draconic Bloodline and DD bonuses) and Alchemical Natural Armor (like alchemist Mutagen bonuses).

Nice to see that LP is fixed to stack with Barkskin!

[Notabot187]

Technically the amulet of natural armor is just permanent barkskin, the item creation rules show that iirc.

[superlovi]

Originally posted by haplok:

Originally posted by Mork:

there is 2 kind of natural armor. Natural armor and natural armor enhancement

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1819161726

Not only 2. There's also Inherent natural armor (like Draconic Bloodline and DD bonuses) and Alchemical Natural Armor (like alchemist Mutagen bonuses).

Nice to see that LP is fixed to stack with Barkskin!

Btw as a druid you can reach outrogeous ac stacking elemental form+barskin+ legendary proportion + fearful appareance + seamantle. Legendary and fearful doesn't stack fully now, they pached it some time ago, but is still interesting.

[Pink Eye]

This is so confusing... So what stacks and what doesn't?

[Mork]

I did some testing with a naked druid. The only 'natural' armor buff that get replace is Frightful Aspect for wild shape/elemental body ... everything else seem to be stacking.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1840373258

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1840373660

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1840373929

[haplok]

Well, its bugged. Frightful Aspect, Transformation and other polymorph effects should not stack.
Legendary Proportions is not clear. SRD lists it as "Size" bonus, so it would stack, but here it's simply worded as "bonus".

[Dixon Sider]

magical vestment armor shouldnt stack either. I try not to use clerics because of that spell

I believe natural armor enhancement should not stack with the natural enhancement on armor

[=[NK]= Col. Jack O'Neil]

Owlcat need to fix their stuff

[Kyutaru]

The only odd man here is Transformation. Frightful Aspect correctly replaces Wild Shape and Elemental Body as they all give you the natural armor bonus for the shapeshift. The alchemical bonus from mutagen stacks, the inherent bonus stacks, the enhancement from barkskin stacks, the size bonus from legendary stacks. Transformation I think isn't being treated as the same category as shapeshifting so it isn't replacing the other shapeshift effects.