Level 6 feat unavailble for Slayer Combat Style

[Lord Yanaek]

OK. There must be something i'm missing here. I'm playing a Slayer (Deliverer) with Two Weapon Fighting. The description for the Combat Style Talent tells me i should be able to get Improved Two Weapon Fighting at level 6 ... but it's not on the list. The only feats i have access to are Two Weapon Fighting, Double Slice (both i acquired with normal feats as i have enough Dex) and Shield Bash.

As a deliverer i'm one Talent short so at level 4 i took the Talent that gives me Trapfinding as Perception is very useful overall and Trickery is a useful class skill. This is the first time i take the Style Talent, not sure whether that should affect my choices as the description doesn't mention this, only level.

I'm totally unfamiliar with the Slayer, both here and PnP. Since i'm 2 talents short as a Deliverer i took those feats i met the prerequisites for as regular feats to save on talents so i could get some master talents but now i fear doing this will lock me from having access to the later feats.

Respec time?

EDIT : and yes, i know Shield Bash is actually more optimal but it's just too stupid to "stab" someone with a shield and i like the style of fighting with two actual weapons.

[dwarner]

You have to take two-weapon fighting before improved. You really wouldn’t want to fight without it, it’s a huge penalty.

You can skip things like the Power Attack requirement for Cleave, or Weapon Focus for Dazzling Display, where you might not want to use the prerequisite at all, but you definitely want two-weapon.

Shield bash is not more optimal aside from a very specialized build. There are a lot of good off-hand weapons.

[Lord Yanaek]

I do have Two Weapon fighting, but i took it as a regular feat rather than using the Combat Style Talent and it looks like i can't take Improved Two Weapon Fighting unless i took the previous one using the talent

[Pink Eye]

Originally posted by Lord Yanaek:

I do have Two Weapon fighting, but i took it as a regular feat rather than using the Combat Style Talent and it looks like i can't take Improved Two Weapon Fighting unless i took the previous one using the talent

That sounds like a bug... Time to smash that f11.

[dwarner]

Originally posted by Lord Yanaek:

I do have Two Weapon fighting, but i took it as a regular feat rather than using the Combat Style Talent and it looks like i can't take Improved Two Weapon Fighting unless i took the previous one using the talent

My apologies then. I’ll test it out later to see what’s up.

[dwarner]

Works fine for me. Most likely you accidentally selected two-handed rather than two-weapon fighting.

[haplok]

Rather Sword & Shield, since he has Shield Bash on the list.

[Lord Yanaek]

Nope, it's the correct style. 2 weapon style allows : Shield Bash, Two Weapon Fighting and Double Slice by default.

The description says that at level 6 Improved Two Weapon Fighting is added but based on my observations (i tried respecing) you can only choose this one if you already took one of the three "base" feats using the talent. If you take the base feats with your regular feats it doesn't add Imp. Two Weapon at level 6.

Note that unlike what i first thought it doesn't seem to matter which feat you take with the level 4 talent (in the case of my respec it was Double Slice as i took Two Weapon Fighting as level 1 feat) but you must take one feat using the talent.

Good to know. Don't know if it's a bug as i've never played Slayer in PnP. Might fire PCGen some time to see how it would build.

[dwarner]

Originally posted by Lord Yanaek:

Nope, it's the correct style. 2 weapon style allows : Shield Bash, Two Weapon Fighting and Double Slice by default.

The description says that at level 6 Improved Two Weapon Fighting is added but based on my observations (i tried respecing) you can only choose this one if you already took one of the three "base" feats using the talent. If you take the base feats with your regular feats it doesn't add Imp. Two Weapon at level 6.

Note that unlike what i first thought it doesn't seem to matter which feat you take with the level 4 talent (in the case of my respec it was Double Slice as i took Two Weapon Fighting as level 1 feat) but you must take one feat using the talent.

Good to know. Don't know if it's a bug as i've never played Slayer in PnP. Might fire PCGen some time to see how it would build.

Yeah, that’s it. I took TWF at one, Slice with the style feat at two and improved was there at six,