Season of Bloom Ending - I'm confused about the story of it.

[Desolate Eden]

So I know the bloom seeds were a cause of the everblooming flower from the first world and the goblins sort of capitalised on that, but werent the true masterminds behind them. What I'm confused about is the guardian of the bloom's motivations. It was her right? The whole plot once entering the first world has been quite vague in my opinion.

What was the big flame ball that spoke to her in the memory? One of the fey eldest?
What was he talking about? Where did she tresspass, seeking what kingdom?
Why does she have to destroy 1000 kingdoms, what will happen if she does?
I don't understand the reason why she ended up in that situation and her motivation for doing what she did.

Without spoiling any future plot, can someone explain it to me? And if there will be more explained later, can you just tell me that without telling me anything else?

Thank you

[Ogami]

Yes it was her and everything will be explained, about Nyrissa, her background and why she does what she does.
The flaming ball was the Lantern King, one of the Elder fey.
Just keep playing, you are still early in the game, just at the end of chapter 2 ( of 8).

[Desolate Eden]

Crazy to think I'm 80 hours into the game and still considered to be early in lol

[Ogami]

Originally posted by Desolate Eden:

Crazy to think I'm 80 hours into the game and still considered to be early in lol

Depends a lot on your playstyle and difficulty setting. I finished the whole game in about 85 hours but i played on STORY difficulty and i am a very fast reader.
Its one MASSIVE game and most people seem to need somewhere around 150-250 hours for one playthrough.

[burningmime]

Can't explain all that without spoilers, you're getting into one of the main themes of the game. What I will say about the story is note how much of it is character-driven -- based on character actions and motivations instead of coincidences or random acts of magic. This is quite rare in fantasy stories, which is why I like PF:KM's so much.

So I know the bloom seeds were a cause of the everblooming flower from the first world and the goblins sort of capitalised on that

IMO, the goblins weren't capitalizing on it; they were being manipulated because of their faith in Lamashtu. They were spreading the seeds, but a lot of them got eaten by monsters, and they didn't get much out of it (except a sense of purpose maybe?).

[jamennej]

The goblins were manipulated and especially their shaman capitalized on it. One does not rule out the other. Them goblins are very random in their nature, you can see that from their interactions with their "beasties" so they are probably used to just rolling with that kind of thing

Like others have said - Consider your experience in the first world as a preview and as the first major sets of hints about what is going on. You will learn more and more as you go.

[lucmobz]

To be quite frank. I didn't go for the secret ending (by researching all curses and romancing that serial killer monster fey that is Nyrissa and probably something else) because it felt dumb for any character above 3 intelligence and I think romance is cringe, and nothing was explained, except what you already know, she tried to be more powerful and got cursed as a "joke" by the eye of Sauron fey version. That's pretty much the whole story plot for you.

Get ready to be confused and deus ex machined for the rest of your play through.

As for being a massive game, it's mostly filler content rather than story: kingdom management cycle and some quests (artisans telling you in your capital that you need to talk to them in their towns, just to tell you go back to your capital) literally tell you to go from one edge of the map to another and go back for the laughs of the NPCs, the campaign speed is slow, the random encounters slow you down and are repeatitive, the save and reload cycle (if you play on harder difficulties) slows a lot of the game, I think 100 hours is the real content you get from the game, which is not bad, but nowhere near as some people tell you.

I think the strong point is the implementation of the rules and combat, although unbalanced it gives you the dnd vibe.

So don't put your hopes too high with regards to the story in my opinion.

PS: Also I played the DLC and nothing of importance was explained, but it was a nice little adventure combat wise.

[burningmime]

Originally posted by lucmobz:

To be quite frank. I didn't go for the secret ending (by researching all curses and romancing that serial killer monster fey that is Nyrissa and probably something else) because it felt dumb for any character above 3 intelligence and I think romance is cringe, and nothing was explained, except what you already know, she tried to be more powerful and got cursed as a "joke" by the eye of Sauron fey version. That's pretty much the whole story plot for you.

Get ready to be confused and deus ex machined for the rest of your play through.

This isn't the topic to be discussing spoiler stuff, which is good because your "summary" of the story is completely incorrect. Stuff isn't "deus ex machined"; the story is very character driven. Everyone acts according to their motivations. And none of it is confusing if you read.

[Jeysie]

Yeah, I'm going to echo/agree with burningmime, that one of the refreshing things about the game is that every character has motivations beyond just "because destiny says so" or "for the evulz".

Even the actual deus-es themselves on the rare occasions they show up generally have motivations beyond being just inscrutable beings.

[lucmobz]

You tell me the storyteller is not a giant inscrutable deus ex machina?

By the way I didn't spoil anything as the plot is basically what he said he experienced.
And all that stuff is not explained in the normal ending (dunno about the secret one which I didn't go for).

As for motivations: it's an evil joke, that's literally what he says in the first world where the OP is at.

Might be that my ending was the worst I don't know, cause I won't be replaying the game, but again to me it's as vague as the OP has noticed even in the end.

[Jeysie]

OK, fair, but like, are you seriously going to complain about the dude who gives you both awesome gear and awesome stories about the background lore? Also they personally do little to direct the plot themselves (i.e. the worst aspect of deus ex machina), they just help you navigate through/direct it.

[lucmobz]

I skipped most of the told stories cause I think the writing is second rate fiction, but that's my taste, also I prefer ""show don't tell" type of games. But I don't think that getting free loot fixes plot holes.

To the OP, finish the game and then try to put the puzzle together, with the hints given most things will clear (and some things simply won't).

[jamennej]

Originally posted by lucmobz:

I skipped most of the told stories cause I think the writing is second rate fiction, but that's my taste, also I prefer ""show don't tell" type of games. But I don't think that getting free loot fixes plot holes.

To the OP, finish the game and then try to put the puzzle together, with the hints given most things will clear (and some things simply won't).

There are those that might say that if you intentionally skip on reading up on the lore and the story, you might find yourself confused by it. It is an interesting feat of mankind that you drag your way here to complain about it afterwards :)

[lucmobz]

I said I skipped (some of) the storyteller stories (and the indian lady ones, which are even worse) not the rest of the reading. Besides those I read added nothing to the plot. Then again none of the OP's questions were answered, except for what he already knows.

I think the OP is as confused as I am, even though I finished the game.

Maybe it's just the ending I got but to me there's nothing deeper than it was an evil joke, and this you get the first time you hear the giant fire ball.

[Jeysie]

It's literally like I said in one of the other threads:

Originally posted by Jeysie:

I find that, as Princess Soap stated, too many fans tend to treat the story as nothing more than a "backdrop" to be quickly skimmed and mostly ignored. Then they complain the story is shallow and it's like, I mean sure, anything you ignore the vast majority of details of is going to then seem shallow. :P

Or they'll complain about various plot points that were actually explained very well in the details that they skipped over and didn't read. :P

[burningmime]

Originally posted by lucmobz:

Maybe it's just the ending I got but to me there's nothing deeper than it was an evil joke, and this you get the first time you hear the giant fire ball.

Lolwut? Did we play the same game?