Pathfinder: Kingmaker

Pathfinder: Kingmaker

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Xaysan May 23, 2020 @ 11:05pm
Most Fun Class for 1st time
So I am no stranger to Pathfinder or these style of games. I used to be big into NWN and the online community that sprang up around.

This game has put forward a great deal of VERY interesting options for playing through the game. For those who have gone through it, what did you find the most interesting and recommend to play through as a first time character?

I know this is subjective, but I am truly at a loss. I'd rather get others opinions instead of repeat the tutorial level 20 times with various builds/specs/classes/styles.

Cheers!
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Tuidjy May 23, 2020 @ 11:29pm 
Playing a paladin can be a minor annoyance because the game often gives you nothing but options which move you away from Lawful Good, and thus forces you to sometimes pick Lawful Good options which are anything but, just so that you do not fall from grace.

Some classes are much more powerful, especially if you minmax and multiclasses. Kineticists, for example, are amazingly effective, in my opinion.

If you want to avoid frustration, I would recommend a main character who has a lot of skills, is not too squishy, and has a decent number of utility spells, So some kind of Magus, with maybe a monk dip would be a rather painless character.

I have only taken two characters to what I think is middle game (I play one with my wife, and keep the second's progress behind the first's) One is a paladin (on Challenging), the other is a sword saint (on Unfair). Both are very enjoyable, but the Saint is a lot more versatile.

Crusaders, vivisectionists, etc. can also combine power with low maintenance.
Azure May 23, 2020 @ 11:44pm 
Inquisitors. Good all-rounders.
InEffect May 24, 2020 @ 12:17am 
Fun? Probably booter. Micro for days.
Gracey Face May 24, 2020 @ 12:33am 
You should probably give an outline of what exactly you find fun, as that will give a better scope for a decent answer.

That being said, you can make custom companions in game so you can experience every single class and build as long as you're willing to spend a trivial amount of money. Or if you get a respec mod you can do it even easier and cheaper. So there's no major need to fret over what class you're going to play unless you really dislike your main character not being your favourite.


But if you want a character that won't get boring, then a wizard is probably the best due to the sheer variety of spells they have they can fulfill a few different roles. They'll never be ideal at any single one but they're good enough to be servicable.
Nevercroft May 24, 2020 @ 12:43am 
So, if you're used to the tabletop versions of those games, get used to being hurt - that's not me being insulting, but rather informative. They've got a lot of encounters in-game that you are absolutely not meant to tackle early - there's one particular encounter I remember super well; because as much as you are forewarned, no one can prepare for the Wispish Inquisition.

That being said, it depends on the difficulty you're going to start out at. The the lower end is close to true pen and paper, while Unfair tests your minmaxing skills. I'd suggest starting out on easiest, and adjusting up if you feel like it isn't a challenge.

Classwise, I'd start with a class that gives you access to Detect Magic - it's not used quite that much early, but early-mid to endgame you get a lot of helpful info from it. Plus, everybody like's Friendly Fire(balls.) Personally, I really enjoyed an Eldritch Scion Magus - you scale reasonably well, get access to good skills, and don't have to deal with pesky spell slots. You get a smaller variety of spells, but that's fine - you only really need a few standouts like Grease and Shocking Grasp early.

It's up to you though really - the NPC companions are... uniquely built.... But perfectly serviceable for the easier difficulties. Of the classes represented though, you will never have a non-mercenary Druid companion, Paladin companion, or Monk. Those classes are all perfectly viable as well. (Even if the game is bound and determined to have ~40% less Lawful Good choices than anything else)
InEffect May 24, 2020 @ 2:08am 
Originally posted by Nevercroft:
NPC companions are perfectly serviceable
FTFY
Mork May 24, 2020 @ 4:52am 
The most fun i ever had with a main character was probably with a pet master
14 ranger / 2 Mad dog / 3 Sacred huntmaster / 1 Traditional monk
Neutral good >>>> lawful good

Or a lawful evil sage sorcerer was also very fun once you pass level 5+.


For the 1st time around, i think one of the best 'basic' class for the campaign is a 20 base ranger or a 19 ranger / 1 rogue(vivisectionist if str melee). They kinda do everything very well, are easy to build for new players and are strong from level 1 to 20. However, one of the companion is a ranger archer and he is quite good.
lemurs2 May 25, 2020 @ 12:54pm 
Magus. They are the best, and a second sub wizard can be helpful.
jsaving May 25, 2020 @ 2:09pm 
Strength-based sword saint was probably my most entertaining run-through, but you have to be comfortable with a high amount of micro and you also need metagame knowledge to choose the proper weapon type at character creation. Otherwise it is hard to go wrong with a mad dog/sacred huntsman, a sylvan sorcerer, or an animal/community cleric. Ranger is also great but the problem is the game already includes a ranger who can take some sacred huntsman levels and isn't deity-locked, so there'd be some redundancy if you went the ranger route.
InEffect May 25, 2020 @ 2:17pm 
Hardest to mess up is STR Fighter1/Vivi16 with any 2h weapon. Pick literally any feats and it'd still likely chew through challenging even if your choices make no sense at all and only stat that matters at character creation is str and a tiny bit of int. Margin of error can't possibly get any bigger than that, but that's not what OP asked. I stand by my choice. Properly done Booter is fun. Loads of buttons to press almost every round.
Last edited by InEffect; May 25, 2020 @ 2:24pm
dwarfpcfan May 25, 2020 @ 2:21pm 
Depends on what you consider "fun" which is subjective and what difficulty you're on. In my last playthrough on challenging I did a 2H fighter 1/Vivisectionist 19 and as far as melee/non true spellcaster character went it was very strong.

To me spellcasters are more fun however because you can play around with spells and such for greater variety.
Kurosu May 26, 2020 @ 3:11am 
Originally posted by Xaysan:
So I am no stranger to Pathfinder or these style of games. I used to be big into NWN and the online community that sprang up around.

This game has put forward a great deal of VERY interesting options for playing through the game. For those who have gone through it, what did you find the most interesting and recommend to play through as a first time character?

I know this is subjective, but I am truly at a loss. I'd rather get others opinions instead of repeat the tutorial level 20 times with various builds/specs/classes/styles.

Cheers!

Like you said its very subjective. What sort of classes interest you the most ?
If you want class variety in the party you might not want to pick a class that the companions already have. Paladins , druids and visisectionists ( they dont use bombs like the alchemist companion) are some of the classes not used by other party members ( dont count mercs obviously). Its not hard to keep the paladin LG alligment ( I didnt have issues and it was even my first run) . Howver dont let any class with alligment restriction scare you anyways. There is a vendor that sells scroll that reset your alligment to the one you had on level 1 (you will need to buy them ofc)
https://steamcommunity.com/app/640820/discussions/0/1645418448927040249/

If you know pathfinder and the classes, I'd suggest the call of the wild mod (but disabling the options it does)
Last edited by =[NK]= Col. Jack O'Neil; May 26, 2020 @ 6:12am
Not Paladin due to the possibility of falling unless you have a scroll of Atonement prepped.
Kurosu May 28, 2020 @ 11:48am 
Originally posted by Benevolent Military Rule:
Not Paladin due to the possibility of falling unless you have a scroll of Atonement prepped.

Paladin was my first class, its not hard at all to keep your alligment (there are a ton of lawfull dialogues and netrual good as well, which makes lawfull good especially easy ,not that there is a lack of LG options anyway). And obtaining the scroll is easy ( just buy from it from the capital).
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