Wait... what?! (final chapter spoiler)

[Steffan]

Was the Lantern King Remus all the time? Did it mean my character outdebated the Lantern King in the Season of Bloom chapter when I persuaded him his prophecies and fears are unfounded (with a good diplomacy check)... Of course, it could have just been part of the performance of the LK to seem beaten and speechless... Now, I am baffled.

By the way, I have beaten the game already so you can freely comment here. I have to admit the LK is one of the funniest bosses I have encountered in my RPG experiences. A definately one of the successful interpretations Especially the fight with his gnome form (running hasted from one side of the hall to the other just to get him). And surprisingly, I did feel a bit for him when he was talking about his loneliness and immortality. All of the Eldest were kind of bored, always hunting for new experiences. Even Shyka, one of the most sympathetic of them was considering it as a game regardless how many millions of people died. I mean my character did not want to have anything with them after the fight with the LK but as a gaming experience, that is one of the good interpretations of the feys and the Eldest.

[wendigo211]

I think it was a case of TLK taking the appearance of a real person, rather than that being that person all the time. When you first meet Remus it definitely is TLK, but I think the Remus who gets dragged into your throne room and you meet during Tristian's personal quest is the real Remus. The reason he doesn't remember your roadside meeting is because this is the first time he's met you.

Similarly, I think the royal huntsman is the royal hunstman some of the time and TLK at other times. I'm not sure which one he is during the Varnhold's Lot campaign. However it does seem that TLK is responsible for Vordekai reawakening as well as Tartuccio becoming Tartuk. Some of the minor curses you encounter are likely his doing as well: Village at Swamp Witch's Hut, Ivar, etc.

[Mooew]

When in 1st phase (Remus form) he dispels all the buffs from party - it was very refreshing experience. Like "now we're talking". Loosing all the immunitties and steroids was fun, as was rebuffing in combat.

[Steffan]

Originally posted by wendigo211:

Some of the minor curses you encounter are likely his doing as well: Village at Swamp Witch's Hut, Ivar, etc.

Really? The curse on the village and Ivar? When/ how was that hinted?

I always thought it was (in)voluntary triggered by the boy who dropped the coins in the well...

And Ivar... I never connected him with the LK. Could you go into details, please?

[wendigo211]

Originally posted by steffan8:

Really? The curse on the village and Ivar? When/ how was that hinted?

I always thought it was (in)voluntary triggered by the boy who dropped the coins in the well...

And Ivar... I never connected him with the LK. Could you go into details, please?

If you talk with the witch and tell her you think it was something else that cursed the village, she'll agree saying the boy wasn't a mage and it would take a lot of magical power to manage a curse of that power. It could be Nyrissa, but she wouldn't have been destroying a kingdom, that suggests TLK empowered the curse.

With Ivar, again something decided empower his curse. If you research the curse you find that no spell or magic ritual was involved in his transformation, so something had to hear him cursing himself and make it true. It looks like TLK views the stolen lands as his personal playground for curses and a lot of minor curses are just him amusing himself.

[Steffan]

I left on good terms with the witch but I might have overlooked that dialogue. Ivar died in the battle with the bards of Littletown and it seemed I involuntarily triggered the combat before I could talk with him. Hence I never got the curse research. I was good in saving my companions but I was constantly failing with the rest (Jhod, Armag, the mite queen and the nobles of Pitax were a lucky exception).

Interesting... I thought the Lantern King was only playing with the toys of Nyrissa (with a small exception or so I thought). Obviously, that exception was actually the rule. Thanks for the info.

[wendigo211]

Originally posted by steffan8:

Ivar died in the battle with the bards of Littletown and it seemed I involuntarily triggered the combat before I could talk with him. Hence I never got the curse research. I was good in saving my companions but I was constantly failing with the rest (Armag, the mite queen and the nobles of Pitax were a lucky exception).

If you replay, go for the romancing Nyrissa ending. You'll learn a bit more about the Lantern King and the Eldest if you follow those quests.

[Aria Athena]

Originally posted by Mooew:

When in 1st phase (Remus form) he dispels all the buffs from party - it was very refreshing experience. Like "now we're talking". Loosing all the immunitties and steroids was fun, as was rebuffing in combat.

That's one way to see it. The other way would be to find it very very annoying, in which case you kill him before that.

[[-TWR-]tajl]

Originally posted by wendigo211:

If you talk with the witch and tell her you think it was something else that cursed the village, she'll agree saying the boy wasn't a mage and it would take a lot of magical power to manage a curse of that power. It could be Nyrissa, but she wouldn't have been destroying a kingdom, that suggests TLK empowered the curse.

I think one of the Storytellers stories hinted that it was kingdom, minor kingdom but kingdom anyway. So it would have been Nyrissa.

[Immortal Reaver]

As I understood it, The Lanter King is source of all curses(and he curses You as Remus first time you meet him) and Nyrissa took advantage of it and pushed peolpe to curse each.