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Krelian Mar 2, 2019 @ 5:39pm
Exotic Weapon Proficiency + Weapon Finess + Aldori Dueling Mastery stacks?
Explanations of the feats from gamepedia:

Weapon Finesse
With a light weapon, elven curve blade, estoc, rapier, or spiked chain made for a creature of your size category, you may use your Dexterity modifier instead of your Strength modifier on attack rolls. If you carry a shield, its armor check penalty applies to your attack rolls.

Exotic Weapon Proficiency
BAB 1, Martial Weapon Proficiency
Choose one type of exotic weapon, such as the dueling sword or sai. You understand how to use that type of exotic weapon in combat, and can utilize any special tricks or qualities that exotic weapon might allow.

Aldori Dueling Mastery
DEX 13, Weapon Finesse, Proficiencies: Dueling Swords, Weapon Focus (Dueling Swords)
You have mastered the impenetrable fighting style.
You gain a +2 bonus on initiative checks as long as you start combat with a dueling sword. As long as you wield only a single dueling sword in one hand (not using a shield, an off-hand weapon, armor spikes, unarmed strikes, or natural weapons), you gain a +2 shield bonus to your AC. Although the dueling sword deals slashing damage, you treat it as if it were also a piercing weapon when determining the effects of weapons used by a duelist

(+ There is also slashing grace etcetera)

Do these feats stack with eachother?
PS! Weapon Focus does not stack with Exotic weapon proficiency, right?

Thanks in advance for any possible guidance :)
Last edited by Krelian; Mar 2, 2019 @ 5:53pm
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JonWoo Mar 2, 2019 @ 6:00pm 
There's nothing to stack, they each do something different.
Krelian Mar 2, 2019 @ 6:11pm 
Originally posted by Jonwoo89:
There's nothing to stack, they each do something different.

Ok, maybe ''stack'' was a poor choice of word.
What I mean is; if I choose:
1- Dueling Sword from the Exotic Weapon Proficiency Feat
2- Get the Weapon Finesse Feat
3- And then get the Aldori Dueling Mastery Feat

Will the beneficial effects of those feats be activated when I'm swinging my sword during combat, so to say?
As in; If I get all of the feats mentioned above: I will be wielding a dueling sword, using my Dexterity modifier instead of my Strength modifier on attack rolls, and I also get the beneficial effects from the Aldori Dueling Mastery at the same time?
Last edited by Krelian; Mar 2, 2019 @ 6:11pm
JonWoo Mar 2, 2019 @ 6:20pm 
Originally posted by Krelian:
Originally posted by Jonwoo89:
There's nothing to stack, they each do something different.

Ok, maybe ''stack'' was a poor choice of word.
What I mean is; if I choose:
1- Dueling Sword from the Exotic Weapon Proficiency Feat
2- Get the Weapon Finesse Feat
3- And then get the Aldori Dueling Mastery Feat

Will the beneficial effects of those feats be activated when I'm swinging my sword during combat, so to say?
As in; If I get all of the feats mentioned above: I will be wielding a dueling sword, using my Dexterity modifier instead of my Strength modifier on attack rolls, and I also get the beneficial effects from the Aldori Dueling Mastery at the same time?
Yes, they all work together. They're designed that way.
Super-XIX Mar 2, 2019 @ 6:23pm 
Yes.

EWP lets you use the weapon.
Weapon Finesse lets you use Dexterity on your attack rolls.
Aldori Dueling Mastery does whatever that feat does, I think it's some kind of Dodge bonus to AC but don't recall off the top of my head.

None of them does anything that would prevent you from using the other feats.
Krelian Mar 2, 2019 @ 6:29pm 
Sweet!
So;
Exotic Weapon Proficiency (Dueling Swords)
Weapon Finesse
& Aldori Dueling Mastery
all work together as I hoped.. Awesome!

Then I recon that also the Weapon Focus Feat (as pat of Aldor Dueling Feat requirement etc.) and perhaps even the Slashing Grace feat (+ the Piranha Strike) all work together with the above mentioned feats as well, right?

Man, it's slowly all coming together in my head now, I have just started to write my very first build on my own. And it's all thank's to you and fellow forum members contributions! :)
Last edited by Krelian; Mar 2, 2019 @ 6:34pm
Super-XIX Mar 2, 2019 @ 6:31pm 
Basically, unless it specifies that it won't work together, it usually works. But realize that you're talking about like six feats, which means it can take quite a while to get all of them online.
Krelian Mar 2, 2019 @ 6:37pm 
Originally posted by The Superjew:
Basically, unless it specifies that it won't work together, it usually works. But realize that you're talking about like six feats, which means it can take quite a while to get all of them online.

Very, very true.
Just one final question, If* I may.
Under a ''normal'' Pathfinder Kingmaker campaign play, the max lv is 20, isn't it?
How many feats does a player normally accumulate under that play time, all the way (& including) lv 20 itself?
I heard somewhere we get a Free Feat to use every odd level (A total of 10 feats). Dunno If that info is correct or not.

Anywho, thank you again :) :)
Last edited by Krelian; Mar 2, 2019 @ 6:41pm
Nightbringer Mar 2, 2019 @ 7:23pm 
Originally posted by The Superjew:
Basically, unless it specifies that it won't work together, it usually works. But realize that you're talking about like six feats, which means it can take quite a while to get all of them online.
A human Sword Saint can start with Aldori dueling sword, weapon finesse, slashing grace and weapon focus. By 5th level you can add in dueling mastery, piranha strike and arcane strike.
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