Mastodon: trample and overrun?

[SIlverblade-T-E]

for a change, made my mercenary cleric take a mastodon pet rather than my usual Leopard

now, I thought Trample was an AoE damage *and* trip?
but it's not?? it's only damage?

and "Overrun" can *only* be triggered by the PLAYER, not the creature's AI?
which makes it kinda "not-so-good" as it can only work from a distance (to let mastodon pet run upto speed I guess),
thus you'd need to send your "tank" in frst, followed by mastodon as a direct order to the pet which is also faster than most tanks so timing gets....tricky,
which is more button mashing....

have I got this right?

[=[NK]= Col. Jack O'Neil]

Not too sure about the trample but You can always turn creatures (and faster melee characters) ai off, and send them in once the tank is engaged.

[SIlverblade-T-E]

well after testing , trample and overrun are the same thing
you need to designate a spot for it to tun TO and that needs ot be BEYOND the enemy so it keeps going and not stop in front of them
it will harm your party if they are in the way
so it seems largely useless :(

[=[NK]= Col. Jack O'Neil]

Not largely useless if you turn his ai off, wait for everyone to engage and take him out wide the trample sideways

[Autocthon]

Originally posted by =NK= Col. Jack O'Neil:

Not largely useless if you turn his ai off, wait for everyone to engage and take him out wide the trample sideways

That this guy says. Not automatic and not friendly-fire proof does not mean not useful. Just gotta use the ability right.

[Schutzengel]

The Mastodon IS rather useless as it is the only pet that has a measly 2 attacks per round.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1532721320

[Rillifane]

Originally posted by Schutzengel:

The Mastodon IS rather useless as it is the only pet that has a measly 2 attacks per round.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1532721320

Number of attacks is not the only thing matters, all the animal companions are considerably strong.

My only hope is that the dev could extend the use of Acid maw to non-bite animal.

[SIlverblade-T-E]

thanks for the feedback, folks! :)

a single mastodon isn't too bad, it's size can be a useful block when many enemies are around, but would NOT want to have a party with2 or more large pets, lol, as many encounters would jam up

[Nito]

Mastodon still have the step sounds ?

After 3 hours hearing it i was wanting to kill myself

[RJM]

You can mod out the sound easily.

[=[NK]= Col. Jack O'Neil]

Yeah just look for mute that mastedon on nexus mods

[Nito]

in the end i just rather not use mastodon the monitor lizard and giant centipede have status poison so it is way better to me

[=[NK]= Col. Jack O'Neil]

Isn't the dc for the poison really low and doesn't scale?

[Nito]

Well it happens on the Pet Basic attacks as a bonus so i think it is worth....

[=[NK]= Col. Jack O'Neil]

Yeah but it doesn't scale like trip does with bab and strength

[Nito]

Well the effect by itself is much stronger.... balance in everything.