Pathfinder: Kingmaker

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hyp3r1onsun Feb 11, 2019 @ 11:43pm
Is this a good stat spread for a human Paladin?
First time playing the game.

Strength: 17 (includes +2 bonus)
Dexterity: 12
Constitution: 14
Intelligence: 10
Wisdom: 11
Charisma: 16

Also, What would be the recommended Skills and Abilities?
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Depends if you're going a sword and shield for tanking, or two handed for damage? Or two weapon? (Which probably not as it needs dex)

It's a pretty good spread you've got. Personally I would put the extra point into dex, so you can qualify for dodge instead of sitting wisdom
warjo7777 Feb 12, 2019 @ 12:56am 
You could dump Intelligence for extra stat points if you don't mind less skill points.
hyp3r1onsun Feb 12, 2019 @ 1:27am 
Originally posted by =NK= Col. Jack O'Neil:
Depends if you're going a sword and shield for tanking, or two handed for damage? Or two weapon? (Which probably not as it needs dex)

It's a pretty good spread you've got. Personally I would put the extra point into dex, so you can qualify for dodge instead of sitting wisdom
I'm planning to go with two handed for this one. I'm also planning to do a sword and shield Elf Paladin for another play through later on.
Last edited by hyp3r1onsun; Feb 12, 2019 @ 1:49am
CHAO$$$ Feb 12, 2019 @ 7:52am 
con is a terrible stat all around. More than 12 is almost never worth it (unless youre playing kineticist). You dont need int at all. dump it. Unless you really want a specific feat that requires int. (and then 10 int wont be enough)

11 wisdom isnt worth it really. By the time you get valuable spells you should be able to wear gear that allows wisdom and charisma bonuses at the same time. 10 wis is enough until then but if u have a point over anyway its fine.

Also human is not really that good. Go for aasimar with +charisma +strength (if that exists) +the wings feat at level 10. Stat points > 1 free feat imo
Last edited by CHAO$$$; Feb 12, 2019 @ 7:59am
For_Science! Feb 12, 2019 @ 9:49am 
I disagree with dumping Int. You will be skill-starved already (especially if you go for a non-human species); don't make it worse.

Skills worth investing in for this character would be Persuasion (always a good idea for the main character, and your high Cha will help too), Athletics (Good strength, and there will be times when you are alone and have to make an athletics or mobility check. Remember to remove encumbering armor before any important Athletics check), and Perception (usually good for everyone to take, unless you decide to go with an Inquisitor perception-specialist who always comes along.) Possibly Use Magic Device if you can afford it, again to leverage that high charisma.
CHAO$$$ Feb 12, 2019 @ 11:26am 
Originally posted by For_Science!:
I disagree with dumping Int. You will be skill-starved already (especially if you go for a non-human species); don't make it worse.

Skills worth investing in for this character would be Persuasion (always a good idea for the main character, and your high Cha will help too), Athletics (Good strength, and there will be times when you are alone and have to make an athletics or mobility check. Remember to remove encumbering armor before any important Athletics check), and Perception (usually good for everyone to take, unless you decide to go with an Inquisitor perception-specialist who always comes along.) Possibly Use Magic Device if you can afford it, again to leverage that high charisma.
You dont need any skills on your main character except persuasion and you get 1 minimum anyway. Almost every roll in the game can be made by other characters. There is 1 single occasion where having something else is slightly useful the operation during the bloom - not sure if you can just pick the correct choices here anyway
At worst you will miss a few baubles in your capital that you cant spot without perception.

Dumping int gets you 4 (stat)points total for -1 skill point per level (Paladin gets 2/level +/- int minimum 1 so 2-2=1 here). Not dumping int gets you 1 more skill point. Yay.

Again, your main character doesnt need ANY skills except persuasion at all unless there is something very specific (like multiclass requirements) youre looking to get.

edit: and then theres also armor penalty for physical skills which makes it even worse unless you want to undress every time to make a skillcheck
Last edited by CHAO$$$; Feb 12, 2019 @ 11:45am
Grifta Feb 12, 2019 @ 11:41am 
Stat: Dumping INT and WIS is fine (both 8 or 7), the rest is fine, but I'd try for 18 in either STR or CHA. Don't need skills, and Cha covers your Will save.

Skill: Persuasion and Perception. Don't bother with Disable Device because you will never be the best in the party, especially if you have Octavia (or another Arcane Trickster) since Ranged Legerdemain lets you repeat Disable Device checks to unlock stuff.

Feat: Blind Fight (immune to Gaze attacks) - This is late game, but life saving.
Then he regular fighter stuff, Power Attack, Improved Crit, Weapon focus, etc.

Weapon: Fauchard has good mid-game, and some amazing late-game entries
Overlard Feb 12, 2019 @ 1:41pm 
You can afford to dump Wisdom further for higher stat boosts. Paladins get Divine Grace (Charisma to all their saves) which offsets the penalty.
Ace490 Feb 12, 2019 @ 1:58pm 
Originally posted by CHAO$$$:
con is a terrible stat all around. More than 12 is almost never worth it (unless youre playing kineticist). You dont need int at all. dump it. Unless you really want a specific feat that requires int. (and then 10 int wont be enough)

11 wisdom isnt worth it really. By the time you get valuable spells you should be able to wear gear that allows wisdom and charisma bonuses at the same time. 10 wis is enough until then but if u have a point over anyway its fine.

Also human is not really that good. Go for aasimar with +charisma +strength (if that exists) +the wings feat at level 10. Stat points > 1 free feat imo

I would also recommend to go with an Aasimar (there is one Aasimar background that gives a strength and charisma bonus). I have the same character combination myself (for a custom companion) and can really recommend it.
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