Trying to build Necromancer. Not allowed to choose domains.

[GL - MB]

About 80% of the domains for cleric are in the red. Can't build the character I want? Was going for a necromancer build. Checked other classes, and the domains are closed to them to. Same with races. What is going on?

[Kurosu]

Domains are related to deity. For example death is only available from : Pharasma, Urgathoa Norgorber and Zon- Kuthon.

The classes that use domains are Cleric , Inquisitors and I think druids ( havent made a druid yet). Again deities apply ( at least for the first 2 ).

A deity also has alligment restrictions. So if you want a specific deity you have to choose an elligment it falls under. Or vice versa, if you want a specific alligment you should check the deities related to it. For neutral and neutral evil should cover you for death domain.

[GL - MB]

Originally posted by Kurosu:

Domains are related to deity. For example death is only available from : Pharasma, Urgathoa Norgorber and Zon- Kuthon.

The classes that use domains are Cleric , Inquisitors and I think druids ( havent made a druid yet). Again deities apply ( at least for the first 2 ).

A deity also has alligment restrictions. So if you want a specific deity you have to choose an elligment it falls under. Or vice versa, if you want a specific aligment you should check the deities related to it. For neutral and neutral evil should cover you for death domain.

Right. That is the problem. I built a few necromancers based on available builds seen on youtube. I followed the builds to try them out. Built a cleric with any and all of the I think 2 or three gods of death. One god per character, of course. Just tried new gods with new characters. All my characters alignments were aligned to that god. As of now, I still cannot select anything passed the initial 4 or 5 domains at the top of the list. Everything else is in red. I followed exactly what these builds specified and showed. A god of death, and chose Death Domain. The other needed domain was Repose. It's not unlocking those domains. I played half-way through the first chapter with my necro and realized these other domains are not available. Not available for new builds either.

[Kurosu]

Originally posted by Nithmal:

Originally posted by Kurosu:

Domains are related to deity. For example death is only available from : Pharasma, Urgathoa Norgorber and Zon- Kuthon.

The classes that use domains are Cleric , Inquisitors and I think druids ( havent made a druid yet). Again deities apply ( at least for the first 2 ).

A deity also has alligment restrictions. So if you want a specific deity you have to choose an elligment it falls under. Or vice versa, if you want a specific aligment you should check the deities related to it. For neutral and neutral evil should cover you for death domain.

Right. That is the problem. I built a few necromancers based on available builds seen on youtube. I followed the builds to try them out. Built a cleric with any and all of the I think 2 or three gods of death. One god per character, of course. Just tried new gods with new characters. All my characters alignments were aligned to that god. As of now, I still cannot select anything passed the initial 4 or 5 domains at the top of the list. Everything else is in red. I followed exactly what these builds specified and showed. A god of death, and chose Death Domain. The other needed domain was Repose. It's not unlocking those domains. I played half-way through the first chapter with my necro and realized these other domains are not available. Not available for new builds either.

Repose is available for Pharasma only if I recall correctly. Is it red even with her ?

[GL - MB]

Originally posted by Kurosu:

Originally posted by Nithmal:

Right. That is the problem. I built a few necromancers based on available builds seen on youtube. I followed the builds to try them out. Built a cleric with any and all of the I think 2 or three gods of death. One god per character, of course. Just tried new gods with new characters. All my characters alignments were aligned to that god. As of now, I still cannot select anything passed the initial 4 or 5 domains at the top of the list. Everything else is in red. I followed exactly what these builds specified and showed. A god of death, and chose Death Domain. The other needed domain was Repose. It's not unlocking those domains. I played half-way through the first chapter with my necro and realized these other domains are not available. Not available for new builds either.

Repose is available for Pharasma only if I recall correctly. Is it red even with her ?

I haven't made it to her yet. I have the character creation open. No matter what deity I choose, race, or class, everything passed Trickery is in the red. I only have the top 5 domains open to my characters. And this falls out of sink with the character creation vids I see on youtupe. I see those guys also clicking the Level numbers, demonstrating their course of action in progression. I can't do that either.

[GL - MB]

Originally posted by Nithmal:

Originally posted by Kurosu:

Repose is available for Pharasma only if I recall correctly. Is it red even with her ?

I haven't made it to her yet. I have the character creation open. No matter what deity I choose, race, or class, everything passed Trickery is in the red. I only have the top 5 domains open to my characters. And this falls out of sink with the character creation vids I see on youtupe. I see those guys also clicking the Level numbers, demonstrating their course of action in progression. I can't do that either.

Correction. I can't do that for any of my clerical choices, regarding domains. According to the summoning Necro builds, Repose should be available. My necro isn't a necro. I can due to negative energy stuff. Nothing for summoning minions, and all domains after the first five are red-outs.

[Kurosu]

If i recall the character creation correctly , right after class its the "deity section ". In that you should have 3 boxes : first one for deit , second for the energ spell and the third one for domain. What did you choose for your first box ?

[Orange]

I think he might've alignment locked himself with the first selection or selected an archtype

[Kurosu]

Originally posted by Orange:

I think he might've alignment locked himself with the first selection or selected an archtype

Alligment comes last in the creation, but yeah could be an archtype.

[Rasqual]

Necromancer is a wizard , not a cleric ....this is the problem for you . make an ensorceler with undead lineage .

[Orange]

Originally posted by Kurosu:

Originally posted by Orange:

I think he might've alignment locked himself with the first selection or selected an archtype

Alligment comes last in the creation, but yeah could be an archtype.

When you select the deity it automatically moves your alignment to 1 of the 3 accepted by the Deity and matches your channel energy. If you pick Iomedae you're usually moved to LG before the end

[dulany67]

Originally posted by Rasqual:

Necromancer is a wizard , not a cleric ....this is the problem for you . make an ensorceler with undead lineage .

Herald Caller's make excellent necros so there is more than one way to skin this cat.

[Harukage]

Originally posted by Rasqual:

Necromancer is a wizard , not a cleric ....this is the problem for you . make an ensorceler with undead lineage .

As with D&D, in Pathfinder evil clerics are better classical necromancers than any arcane caster.

[𝔗𝔢𝔞 ❀]

Originally posted by Harukage:

Originally posted by Rasqual:

Necromancer is a wizard , not a cleric ....this is the problem for you . make an ensorceler with undead lineage .

As with D&D, in Pathfinder evil clerics are better classical necromancers than any arcane caster.

Yes, although what about a sorcerer that gets up to animate dead? They will have more yeah? The undead bloodline looks promising.

https://pathfinderkingmaker.fandom.com/wiki/Undead_Bloodline

[Orange]

Originally posted by Tea ❀:

Originally posted by Harukage:

As with D&D, in Pathfinder evil clerics are better classical necromancers than any arcane caster.

Yes, although what about a sorcerer that gets up to animate dead? They will have more yeah? The undead bloodline looks promising.

https://pathfinderkingmaker.fandom.com/wiki/Undead_Bloodline

Clerics have the advantage of being able to cast animate dead earlier (lvl 3 spell for divine) then sorcerers (lvl 4 spell for arcane ), plus there's the negative energy channelling which no living enemy has resistance to and would damage enemies without friendly fire to summons or healing the summons without the need to burn a feat

[GL - MB]

The source of my confusion is that on the Necromancer builds using cleric that I saw on youtube is that the Cleric build demonstrated domains that aren't available, regardless of deity. People keep saying watch the alignment, forgetting that alignment is already locked based on the god, and the last thing you select.