Aldori Defender Feats

[Pandabear]

Am I missing something or does the Aldori Defender Class get less Feats than all other Warrior classes? Every other warrior class gets one feat each level. Aldori Defender gets 3 bonus feats less I think (no bonus feat at lvl 6,8 and 10), is this intentional?

[Ashley]

Yeah, because they get a few specific class features that replace those bonus feats.

Disarming Strike (6th level) lets you deal damage when you successfully disarm an opponent (normally you would deal no damage with a disarm attempt). This is mostly pointless, but if you can do it successfully, disarming your opponent can make some fights much easier.

Steel Net (8th level) reduces the attack penalty for fighting defensively by 2 and increases the dodge bonus by 2 (basically to -2 attack/+4 AC instead of -4 attack/+2 AC).

Counterattack (10th level) lets you make an opportunity attack when an opponent hits you with a melee attack as long as they're within your reach. This pairs extremely well with Combat Reflexes.

[Pandabear]

Oh I get it. While were at it...I've played my aldori defender for some time but I never actually saw the AC bonus from the defensive parry feat come into effect in combat. Can anyone confirm that this works and I am just missing something here. I know it is just against melee attacks but my AC should go up for one round if I hit should it not?

[Kyun]

Originally posted by Pandabear:

I never actually saw the AC bonus from the defensive parry feat come into effect in combat

it was bugged and will be fixed with 1.1 (see patchnote draft)

[DLX]

https://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/core-classes/fighter/archetypes/paizo-fighter-archetypes/swordlord/

Actually, Defensive Parry, Steel Net and Counterattack replace the entire Armor Training feature of the Fighter.
Disarming Strike only the first Weapon Training.

I don't know why the three bonus combat feats are removed O_o

[Procrastinating Gamer]

Originally posted by Darklynx:

https://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/core-classes/fighter/archetypes/paizo-fighter-archetypes/swordlord/

Actually, Defensive Parry, Steel Net and Counterattack replace the entire Armor Training feature of the Fighter.
Disarming Strike only the first Weapon Training.

I don't know why the three bonus combat feats are removed O_o

That might be the older version of the Archetype from the Inner Sea Primer - it got re-printed, renamed, and slightly tweaked into becoming the Aldori Defender in the Adventurer's Guide. This is the re-printed version of the archetype.[aonprd.com]

[DLX]

Ah ok, didn't know that. Thanks for the info!

[rumpelstiltskin]

just to clarify, does steel net work with a shield? i guess defensive parry, even if it works technically, wouldn't be useful with a shield, since its bonus (presumably non-stackable) will likely be less than that of a proper shield.

[Procrastinating Gamer]

Originally posted by rumpelstiltskin:

just to clarify, does steel net work with a shield? i guess defensive parry, even if it works technically, wouldn't be useful with a shield, since its bonus (presumably non-stackable) will likely be less than that of a proper shield.

Assuming the ability works as it does in tabletop, then no. If you look at the link in my last post, namely the last paragraph above the "Suggested Feats" bit, it says the following:

The following benefits apply only when an Aldori defender is wielding an Aldori dueling sword (see page 24) and carrying nothing in his other hand. An Aldori defender fights with his sword wielded with both hands only in moments of desperation.

That bit's referring to all of the Archetype's abilities (presumably done that way to save page space and not be reprinting the same sentence in each ability).