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Mythic Legend?
Can anybody tell me what mythic legend means?
Originally posted by Grifta:
You mean for Wrath of the Righteous?

It's just the name that they are giving to the Mythic path that isn't sponsored by a specific power.

Examples:
Lich is where you turn yourself into a Lich through powerful rituals
Angel is where some being of a good-aligned plane is feeding you energy/knowledge/?mythic juice?
Legend can just be sheer mortal will that eventually transcends normal mortals, or it could be exposure to some other exceptional power. An extreme example is the Starstone that can turn mortals into gods, but only 3 people have ever done that, and none of them have discussed it.
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Grifta Feb 12, 2020 @ 3:19pm 
You mean for Wrath of the Righteous?

It's just the name that they are giving to the Mythic path that isn't sponsored by a specific power.

Examples:
Lich is where you turn yourself into a Lich through powerful rituals
Angel is where some being of a good-aligned plane is feeding you energy/knowledge/?mythic juice?
Legend can just be sheer mortal will that eventually transcends normal mortals, or it could be exposure to some other exceptional power. An extreme example is the Starstone that can turn mortals into gods, but only 3 people have ever done that, and none of them have discussed it.
The Infinity Sock Feb 12, 2020 @ 7:58pm 
Originally posted by Grifta:
You mean for Wrath of the Righteous?

It's just the name that they are giving to the Mythic path that isn't sponsored by a specific power.

Examples:
Lich is where you turn yourself into a Lich through powerful rituals
Angel is where some being of a good-aligned plane is feeding you energy/knowledge/?mythic juice?
Legend can just be sheer mortal will that eventually transcends normal mortals, or it could be exposure to some other exceptional power. An extreme example is the Starstone that can turn mortals into gods, but only 3 people have ever done that, and none of them have discussed it.
Cool thanks the other mythic paths are not to my liking but i was not sure on what mythic legend means if it's the only way to godhood i will take it :)
Grifta Feb 13, 2020 @ 8:54am 
Without knowing to full implication of the options, I agree, I will probably pick Legend as well.
Orange Feb 13, 2020 @ 11:33am 
To be honest this seems to be a bit of houseruling\homebrew from Owlcat's side because originally we only had six different paths and noone of them were associated with any faction or deity by default:

Archmage: "A master of arcane magic, the archmage casts powerful spells with great skill and ease, and shapes reality at whim." The base for the Lich

Champion: "Unparalleled in combat, the champion stands triumphant on the battlefield, surrounded by bruised and broken foes." The base for the Demon

Guardian: "None can get past the impervious guardian—those who threaten this devout hero’s charges are doomed to fail." The base for the Azata

Hierophant: "Drawing on power that goes beyond the gods, the hierophant is an inviolate vessel for the divine." Base for the Aeon

Marshal: "Inspiration and courage make the marshal the greatest leader, capable of leading troops to victory over any challenge." Base for the Angel

Trickster: "Skill, training, and savvy make the trickster the master of the impossible—defying unbeatable obstacles and traps, tricking the wise, and hitting otherwise unattainable targets." They appear to have kept this one intact for the most part but seems like they want to make it Fey related
Last edited by Orange; Feb 13, 2020 @ 11:52am
The Infinity Sock Feb 14, 2020 @ 11:23am 
Originally posted by Orange:
To be honest this seems to be a bit of houseruling\homebrew from Owlcat's side because originally we only had six different paths and noone of them were associated with any faction or deity by default:

Archmage: "A master of arcane magic, the archmage casts powerful spells with great skill and ease, and shapes reality at whim." The base for the Lich

Champion: "Unparalleled in combat, the champion stands triumphant on the battlefield, surrounded by bruised and broken foes." The base for the Demon

Guardian: "None can get past the impervious guardian—those who threaten this devout hero’s charges are doomed to fail." The base for the Azata

Hierophant: "Drawing on power that goes beyond the gods, the hierophant is an inviolate vessel for the divine." Base for the Aeon

Marshal: "Inspiration and courage make the marshal the greatest leader, capable of leading troops to victory over any challenge." Base for the Angel

Trickster: "Skill, training, and savvy make the trickster the master of the impossible—defying unbeatable obstacles and traps, tricking the wise, and hitting otherwise unattainable targets." They appear to have kept this one intact for the most part but seems like they want to make it Fey related
I agree with you i did find it odd the we are getting the Lich i mean the Archmage is a much better path to pick
Morgian Feb 15, 2020 @ 7:10pm 
Well, the original mythic rules are as overpowered as they can be (mythic fireball anyone? :) ). Getting them more playable will take some work.
They have paths based on the character roles plus an universalist path that everyone can access. It looks a bit like WotR is going to twist it based on alignment.

However they implement the stuff, I am looking forward to it. The only really high-level games were NWN and NWN 2 DLCs thus far.
Originally posted by Morgian:
Well, the original mythic rules are as overpowered as they can be (mythic fireball anyone? :) ). Getting them more playable will take some work.
They have paths based on the character roles plus an universalist path that everyone can access. It looks a bit like WotR is going to twist it based on alignment.

However they implement the stuff, I am looking forward to it. The only really high-level games were NWN and NWN 2 DLCs thus far.
True it's only NWN games that let us go into the epic levels
jsaving Aug 4, 2020 @ 1:48pm 
That made me chuckle, assuming you are thinking about BG2/ToB.
Originally posted by jsaving:
That made me chuckle, assuming you are thinking about BG2/ToB.
I have not played BG2/ToB in years but yes I get the joke
Immortal Reaver Aug 5, 2020 @ 12:08pm 
I want to theorize, I think it will be something like +2 to all your stats on each Legend mythic level up(or just each odd level up). Or on 10 Mythic level it will give you 25 as base for all stats.
Originally posted by Immortal Reaver:
I want to theorize, I think it will be something like +2 to all your stats on each Legend mythic level up(or just each odd level up). Or on 10 Mythic level it will give you 25 as base for all stats.
I can live with that but I don't think there will give us a 25 base stats I think that would be overkill
Immortal Reaver Aug 6, 2020 @ 10:23am 
On 10th level it would not be overkill, since I think you will not gain special abilities, like changing past with Aeon, Immunity to Negative Energy and raising Dead bosses for Lich, Dragon minicompanion for Azata, Changing dice rolls with Trickster, Demon Forms, summoning Angels etc.
The Infinity Sock Aug 6, 2020 @ 12:53pm 
Originally posted by Immortal Reaver:
On 10th level it would not be overkill, since I think you will not gain special abilities, like changing past with Aeon, Immunity to Negative Energy and raising Dead bosses for Lich, Dragon minicompanion for Azata, Changing dice rolls with Trickster, Demon Forms, summoning Angels etc.
Well we will have to wait and see how Owlcat will handle mythic path legend
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