Demon/Devil Summoner - Summoner build

[TheOnichild]

Hello! So I know many summoner builds have been asked about in different topics. I have tried to look through these topics as much as possible but no one has mentioned this exactly or has said that I have seen that you can summon demons or devils.

I saw a few things about the Herald Cleric build but I think I am still summoning wolves. Truth be told I was originally leveling an Abyssal bloodline Conjuration based Sorcerer, and I saw something about adding a few cleric levels. I tried to do that but I just want to verify before I continue if demon summoning works in this game.

Maybe I have played too much Shin Megami Tensei lol. But in the tabletop you get to choose what you summon. Any suggestions on this?

[Oathbreaker]

best summoners are the inquisitors.sub class. they get summon skill that lasts one minute per lvl instead of 1 round

[KentDA]

I can't comment about in game, but Summon Monster spells don't have many Demons / Devils that you can summon.

From PFSRD the list of actual Demons / Devils is rather small.

There are (via PFSRD) a total of 8 Demons and 6 Devils in the lists of Summoned monsters.

Demons: 3,5,6,7,8,9
Devils: 2,5,6,7,8,9

In short, you're not going to be summoning demons or devils unless you're relatively high level. Also, if you're doing it with Cleric, you may have to be Evil as well (I can't confirm that one way or the other).

[TheOnichild]

Hey thanks guys. @Daddy I had pondered about an Inquisitor as well. (And yes I am Lawful Evil with this Tiefling so devil summoning works). I might reload a previous save and put my points into Inquistor instead.

Also, @KentaDA thanks for the suggestion. Yeah I noticed that, but its still possible to choose one of them.

I guess I am mostly curious if its even possible. I will probably change to Inquistor instead of Cleric though. So I'll be a Sorcerer/Inquistor build.

Or... should I just stick with Sorcerer since I am 5 lvls in?

[Morgian]

The golden rule for major casters is this: do not ever stray from your class. No, I really mean it, you don't multiclass for anything.
You want to get your highest level spells as soon as possible and as many of them as possible. You don't want to cripple your caster level under any circumstances. For sorcerers it is even worse, because they get their spells a level late.

I am playing a sorcerer, alhough an evoker wizard might have been nice, too. I am specialized in evocation, which offers some of the best spells in game, especially the final chapters. I also wouldn't waste my options for something as useful as claws...sage sorcerer gives another +2 to DCs, which is way better for casters.

If you mix a sorcerer with an inquisitor you get something that cannot use higher level spells. Demon summonings are kinda rare:
Monster summoning V: red cap...evil fae, not a demon
Monster summoning VI: soul eater...not a demon either
Monster summoning VII: bogey man...again, no demon
Monster summoning VIII: frost giant...you know the deal :)
Monster summoning IX: thanadaemon...not a demon either, but very close

So you have to be a cleric or wizard 17 or sorcerer 18 to summon a daemon. All others cannot.

[The Infinity Sock]

No love for demon summoners it seems :(

[Morgian]

Maybe an echo from earlier days when catholic fundamentalists tried to persecute AD&D for diabolism? They even renamed demons to Tanari to avoid the image back then.
Such things always remind me of Einstein's saying "Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.".