Kineticist Energy Blast & Spell Penetration feat

[Mephisto]

Although most pen & paper guides recommend spell penetration for the kineticist, I just noticed that the spell penetration feat is tagged as "not recommended" for the kineticist in Kingmaker. Does it mean that it doesn't work for energy kinetic blasts?
Those blasts are treated as magic for the purpose of damage reduction, are affected by spell resistance, but strictly speaking are not "spells" I guess. Therefore, I wonder if the feat applies to them or not, since it mentions "spells" in its description.
Has someone verified this in game?

[Mephisto]

I just verified this myself with an ice blast against a small earth elemental: I confirm that spell penetration is applied to the blast to overcome the elemental's spell resistance.

That feat having the tag "not recommended" for a kineticist is therefore incorrect IMO, since it is one of the most useful ones (at least for those not relying entirely on physical blasts).

[JadeDejavu]

and physical blasts get deadly aim

[Nettleburn_PL]

i am quite sure that spell penetratrion isnt "recomended" just beacose u should choose one physical blast. on lvl 7 u get aditional element and if you chose //earth// or //water// or //air// physicals, u dont rly need the spell resistance overcome - itll still be better (usualy) to use a physical blast rather than having +4 caster dc (of 2 feats total), to overcome spell resistance. which makes you 2 aditional feats (lets say a skill focus, or improved initiative) instead of spell penetrations.

however kineticist doesnt need much feats. also u can have energy blasts focusing kineticist - which probable should have spell penetration recomended.

ps. thx mephisto for checking it.

[JadeDejavu]

Originally posted by Nettleburn_PL:

i am quite sure that spell penetratrion isnt "recomended" just beacose u should choose one physical blast. on lvl 7 u get aditional element and if you chose //earth// or //water// or //air// physicals, u dont rly need the spell resistance overcome - itll still be better (usualy) to use a physical blast rather than having +4 caster dc (of 2 feats total), to overcome spell resistance. which makes you 2 aditional feats (lets say a skill focus, or improved initiative) instead of spell penetrations.

however kineticist doesnt need much feats. also u can have energy blasts focusing kineticist - which probable should have spell penetration recomended.

ps. thx mephisto for checking it.

yeah, there is elemental barrage as mythic ability, thus having 2 elements that you can switch between 2 elemets to get bonus damage would be good.

[Doombringer]

I normally go physical for the auto hit no SR no save persistent damage AoEs.
(i.e. automatic damage - Deadly Earth + Cloud, Wall can work too, but is harder to use.)
Although you can use Earth+Fire+Water instead of Earth+Air+Water I guess...