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sffrrrom Dec 25, 2018 @ 9:52am
Best Romance?
For those of you who have played through once or more, what did you feel like was the best romance path? Especially now that the new DLC is out? I'm personally trying to decide what to do right now - I have a chaotic good Sorcerer playthrough at Chapter 3 where I am set up to pursue the Nyrissa romance, but I am also tempted to restart as an evil Thassilonian wizard or something similar and romance the DLC character. Has anyone completed her romance as an evil character? Is it viable/satisfying?
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Cloudhunter Dec 26, 2018 @ 11:26am 
... i am not sure, if the alignment is somehow important for it. I have not tested out the new romance path, but before the DLC, it was possible to get all the onces regarding your gender.

Spoiler i started with Oktavia. (Regonar is optional) When you have helped and flirted with Valerie enough, she will give you the choice: she or Oktavia. (Ok, its not favourable in her way to follow the evil way, she has a good alignment, which does not like the bad ones). If you deceide for her, you have to break up with Oktavia. It will need some time, but then you can get together with her, following her companion path. (If i recall it right, there were like 100 days between the breakup with Oktavia and the following event with Valerie. At the end of the game, you can go for Nyrissa. Valerie does not even complain/say something at all then - which i find a bit sad. I liked her a lot. I did not even have a choice between Valerie and Nyrissa. You can either go for Nyrissa, or not. But there is nothing "visible" with Nyrissa, like with the companions. Its just mentioned in the final papers and she does help you against the final boss.

And regarding "if i liked the romance path[es]: i would have hoped for more. I mean, you flirt a bit, and can go to bed with them, where everything is blacked out. Thats all. Not much dating, or doing some stuff together. In Neverwinter nights you could even have a baby! Here, nothing.

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The Infinity Sock Dec 26, 2018 @ 11:37am 
Nyrissa in my opinion is the best one to go for if you do romance her you end up becoming immortal not a bad deal if you ask me
Cloudhunter Dec 26, 2018 @ 11:39am 
Originally posted by The Infinity Sock:
Nyrissa in my opinion is the best one to go for if you do romance her you end up becoming immortal not a bad deal if you ask me

You can go immortal without her, too, if i remember it right. Just tell the Lichking.
The Infinity Sock Dec 26, 2018 @ 11:41am 
Originally posted by Cloudhunter:
Originally posted by The Infinity Sock:
Nyrissa in my opinion is the best one to go for if you do romance her you end up becoming immortal not a bad deal if you ask me

You can go immortal without her, too, if i remember it right. Just tell the Lichking.
How can you give me more info?
Cloudhunter Dec 26, 2018 @ 11:46am 
Originally posted by The Infinity Sock:
Originally posted by Cloudhunter:

You can go immortal without her, too, if i remember it right. Just tell the Lichking.
How can you give me more info?

regarding the immortallty? When you beat him, he offers immortallty to you. you can either take it, or not. If you do not take it, you can kill him via the following choices. But actually, i do not think, immortallity is this important. you do not continue to play afterwards. and out of roleplay reasons: a level 20 sorcerer does find enough ways of being able to live veeeeery long, if he/her wants to.
The Infinity Sock Dec 26, 2018 @ 11:52am 
Originally posted by Cloudhunter:
Originally posted by The Infinity Sock:
How can you give me more info?

regarding the immortallty? When you beat him, he offers immortallty to you. you can either take it, or not. If you do not take it, you can kill him via the following choices. But actually, i do not think, immortallity is this important. you do not continue to play afterwards. and out of roleplay reasons: a level 20 sorcerer does find enough ways of being able to live veeeeery long, if he/her wants to.
Cool i just hope we don't become a undead to get immortality
sffrrrom Dec 26, 2018 @ 11:59am 
Thanks for everyone's posts, that's helpful. Does anyone know if you can have a decent romance with the DLC character while being evil (not necessarily stupid baby-murder evil just some amount of evil). The romance with Nyrissa is basically locked to good alignment, at the very least roleplay wise (and to some extent mechanically as well), and I don't think there's any decent romance option other than maybe Regongar who is evil. So I'm hoping the DLC character is a decent evil option.
Morthra Dec 26, 2018 @ 12:19pm 
The romance with Nyrissa isn't locked to good characters only, it's just easier to do if you're good aligned. If you are Good you get the option of raising her affection stat to the maximum in the dream sequence during Chapter 5, but if you don't (either through whiffing it or not being Good) she shows up in your capital a while later and you can max out her affection there.
The Infinity Sock Dec 26, 2018 @ 12:27pm 
Originally posted by sffrrrom:
Thanks for everyone's posts, that's helpful. Does anyone know if you can have a decent romance with the DLC character while being evil (not necessarily stupid baby-murder evil just some amount of evil). The romance with Nyrissa is basically locked to good alignment, at the very least roleplay wise (and to some extent mechanically as well), and I don't think there's any decent romance option other than maybe Regongar who is evil. So I'm hoping the DLC character is a decent evil option.
Sorry but i have no idea on the dlc character romance as i have only started to get back into this game
Originally posted by Morthra:
The romance with Nyrissa isn't locked to good characters only, it's just easier to do if you're good aligned. If you are Good you get the option of raising her affection stat to the maximum in the dream sequence during Chapter 5, but if you don't (either through whiffing it or not being Good) she shows up in your capital a while later and you can max out her affection there.
I was going to say the same thing but you beat me to it
sffrrrom Dec 26, 2018 @ 12:36pm 
Originally posted by Morthra:
The romance with Nyrissa isn't locked to good characters only, it's just easier to do if you're good aligned. If you are Good you get the option of raising her affection stat to the maximum in the dream sequence during Chapter 5, but if you don't (either through whiffing it or not being Good) she shows up in your capital a while later and you can max out her affection there.

Ahhhh I did not know that. That must be updated information from when I last checked in on it. Hm - that kind of pushes me towards restarting as an evil character. My current playthrough is an amalagamation of misbuilt misfits and screwed up bugs from way back when anyway, and that way I can try out the DLC romance and if I don't like it go for Nyrissa instead, since it seems like it doesn't lock you out of that unless you "complete" a romance with someone.

aramintai Dec 26, 2018 @ 12:49pm 
I find Nyrissa's romance silly, unbelievable and unfulfilling. I mean, she sparsely appears in the game every other year and all the time she tries to kill you, your friends and your kingdom's citizens. How the hell can one love such a person? Just for her looks (which are very weird anyway[vegera.artstation.com])? And later she even kills Linzi like she's some kind insignificant speck.
Sure, you can say she was robbed of her ability to love so that's why she's doing all these abominable evil things. Boo hoo! Nobody robbed her of her free will - she chose to follow that path and didn't choose to disobey the Lantern King. So, no, I can't find it in myself neither to forgive her for the thousands of years of atrocities nor to love her. And you gotta question yourself if you find that you can - is this genuine or did she put a spell on you maybe? Because she certainly can as she did with the Stag Lord, Irovetti, Armag and so many others.


And no, you don't need to do all those super long curse researches or her being alive for the best ending.You can kill her, then fight the Lantern King, then pass all his skill checks and demand he either lift the curse and forget about your kingdom or even make you immortal.
And if you kill Nyrissa she won't haunt you in your dreams later. Good thing overall in my book :)
The purpose of those researches and not completing any other romance in the game is for her to accept the Briar and later help her lift her own curse. Though I'm appaled at how everybody seem to forget and forgive in the end that she was to blame for everything bad that happened in the kingdom and welcomed her with open arms. Meh.


I find companions romances most rewarding and believable - they are with you all the way through your journey, they come to grow on you and you start to care about them. They have numerous quests and banters and their romance endings are not in any way lesser than Nyrissa's.

P.S. Personally, I like Valerie's romance the most. But that's just my preference.
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sffrrrom Dec 26, 2018 @ 1:02pm 
Originally posted by aramintai:
I find Nyrissa's romance silly, unbelievable and unfulfilling. I mean, she sparsely appears in the game every other year and all the time she tries to kill you, your friends and your kingdom's citizens. How the hell can one love such a person? Just for her looks (which are very weird anyway)? And later she even kills Linzi like she's some kind insignificant speck.
Sure, you can say she was robbed of her ability to love so that's why she's doing all these abominable evil things. Boo hoo! Nobody robbed her of her free will - she chose to follow that path and didn't choose to disobey the Lantern King. So, no, I can't find it in myself neither to forgive her for the thousands of years of atrocities nor to love her. And you gotta question yourself if you find that you can - is this genuine or did she put a spell on you maybe? Because she certainly can as she did with the Stag Lord, Irovetti, Armag and so many others.


And no, you don't need to do all those super long curse researches or her alive for the best ending.You can kill her, then fight the Lantern King, then pass all his skill checks and demand he either lift the curse and forget about your kingdom or even make you immortal.
And if you kill Nyrissa she won't haunt you in your dreams later. Good thing overall in my book :)


I find companions romances most rewarding and believable - they are with you all the way through your journey, they come to grow on you and you start to care about them. They have numerous quests and banters and their romance endings are not in any way lesser than Nyrissa's.

Thanks for the input! It's all very helpful.
Cloudhunter Dec 26, 2018 @ 1:06pm 
Originally posted by aramintai:
I find Nyrissa's romance silly, unbelievable and unfulfilling. I mean, she sparsely appears in the game every other year and all the time she tries to kill you, your friends and your kingdom's citizens. How the hell can one love such a person? Just for her looks (which are very weird anyway)? And later she even kills Linzi like she's some kind insignificant speck.

I would not agree to you. The point is, that you do not have the understanding of love, which you need to understand this behaviour. For me its kinda impossible to explain it in a few words to you. You would not understand the short story, i have read in the news some time ago: there was some italien woman, who shot her husband, because she did not felt being loved enough by him. He survived and wanted her back the moment he got out of the hospital. Such things are kinda impossible to understand, if you have never been in such circumstances. Just because your later partner does try to kill you a few times, does not mean, you cannot have a fullfilled relationship later on...

aramintai Dec 26, 2018 @ 1:10pm 
Originally posted by Cloudhunter:
I would not agree to you. The point is, that you do not have the understanding of love, which you need to understand this behaviour. For me its kinda impossible to explain it in a few words to you. You would not understand the short story, i have read in the news some time ago: there was some italien woman, who shot her husband, because she did not felt being loved enough by him. He survived and wanted her back the moment he got out of the hospital. Such things are kinda impossible to understand, if you have never been in such circumstances. Just because your later partner does try to kill you a few times, does not mean, you cannot have a fullfilled relationship later on...
Whatever floats your boat, man. Personally though, I think if somebody tries to kill you like that, numerous times even, that somebody is simply not right in the head. Just my personal opinion. But that example has nothing to do with Nyrissa.
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The Infinity Sock Dec 26, 2018 @ 1:18pm 
Originally posted by aramintai:
Originally posted by Cloudhunter:
I would not agree to you. The point is, that you do not have the understanding of love, which you need to understand this behaviour. For me its kinda impossible to explain it in a few words to you. You would not understand the short story, i have read in the news some time ago: there was some italien woman, who shot her husband, because she did not felt being loved enough by him. He survived and wanted her back the moment he got out of the hospital. Such things are kinda impossible to understand, if you have never been in such circumstances. Just because your later partner does try to kill you a few times, does not mean, you cannot have a fullfilled relationship later on...
Whatever floats your boat, man. Personally though, I think if somebody tries to kill you like that, numerous times even, that somebody is simply not right in the head. Just my personal opinion. But that example has nothing to do with Nyrissa.
Here is two great reasons to romance her she has a charisma of 36 and is willing to give you immortal not a bad deal in my book
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