Sepulcher of Forgotten Heroes - Bye Felicia

[bruce86]

Wow. I've just encountered Sepulcher of Forgotten Heroes, and it makes me sad.... I liked this game as a fun time diversion.... but holy crap! Even reading the 'walk-through' on this quest is ridiculous.

I usually assume this level of un-intuitive problem solving requirements are a sign from the programmers to stop playing the game.... which sucks. It was fun.

[Shadenuat]

Is that the one with doors with colors/symbols in a puzzle about as hard as modern Zelda games?

[bruce86]

Eyup

[Ashley]

Really? You had problems solving the door puzzles?

I'm surprised you got that far before giving up if THAT's what did you in.

[kaymarciy]

In all honesty, how does "press red button to open red door" count as an un-intuitive puzzle?

[TaKo]

Originally posted by kaymarciy:

In all honesty, how does "press red button to open red door" count as an un-intuitive puzzle?

its nowhere as simple as that

[Dorok]

It's not basic, but not complex either, this one is less badly done. Quote the colors isn't difficult and is a good hint design, then think of party splitting is really nothing difficult, then think about color mixes is again auto hint rather fair.

It's probably harder to follow a guide than get the logic and systematically explore and apply it.

[Bigun]

the colors do not match. just did it on a second play through, and the first step plate is orange, but opens doors that are blue etc. I just said hell with it and did it by memory.

[Dorok]

You probably found a bug or an alternate solution.

[kaymarciy]

If my memory serves right, the very first plate is orange/green.

[Dorok]

Originally posted by kaymarciy:

If my memory serves right, the very first plate is orange/green.

Orange, green, blue, lol.

There's color mix, but I really though it starts with orange/orange, lol. But ok the color thing that really helped me was probably not to match door and pressure but to link pressures.

EDIT: Split party to get what happens, now it's a problem they removed the ability to use multiple light spells, a quite bad change, but it's playable anyway to split party.

[dulany67]

I don't think it's a question of being hard. It's just a sucky time waster.

[Dorok]

Originally posted by dulany67:

I don't think it's a question of being hard. It's just a sucky time waster.

Like are the too numerous combats, it's all about that, time waster, that's what is video games.

EDIT: That said for RPG it's not the best puzzling design type, the best aren't based of some complex mechanisms, but on a mix of hints to detect, not too complex so you can decipher them, and then apply to some mechanism or puzzling not too wide/long/complex.

[jaypob]

Uhh... I thought that was one of the easier, but more entertaining puzzles. The colors and splitting the party was all I needed to figure it out. Now... the mysterious shrine puzzle... that one was a huge time-suck. If the doors frustrated you enough to quit, then be glad you did, 'cause that puzzle was quick and easy compared to later.

[Cypher]

It get's worse... there's another later where you have to toggle lamps which open secret doors (basically walls that lower) in another location replete with fire traps. There's no indication that you're looking for a door/ wall and it doesn't lower automatically you have to walk past the correct wall at the right time... good luck!

[jdmf1403]

Originally posted by bruce86:

Wow. I've just encountered Sepulcher of Forgotten Heroes, and it makes me sad.... I liked this game as a fun time diversion.... but holy crap! Even reading the 'walk-through' on this quest is ridiculous.

I usually assume this level of un-intuitive problem solving requirements are a sign from the programmers to stop playing the game.... which sucks. It was fun.

yeah... I agree. A lame puzzle that if you don't pass it you will ultimately fail the game utterly blows.

Given that I'm colour blind, this puzzle is incomprehensible to me.

man, I hate puzzles just for the sake of puzzles. ESPECIALLY if you can't skip them.