Jaethal Companion Quest.

[fefnir3284]

How do you do the quest with her daughter?

Im at the bard/monster/thieves before Pitax and from what I read she has to explode and DIE to be resurrected much later in the game but I WANT TO USE her for pitax...

so how do I do this? how do I do her stupid ass companion quest right? since Im appearently doing it wrong and I am really getting sick and tired of bug after bug after bug and after 500+ hours I will NEVER replay this game (if I even complete it) as if all my companions dont make it to end game I jsut will uninstall this game (im a completionist)....

[fefnir3284]

for context the elf girl was rezzed (nothing wrong with that), then the priest gave the formula but then she died, and jaethal spared her daughter but then blew up.

Im before pitax and want to use her for that. what gives?

[prototype00]

So you have a choice.

1: Believe it or not Jaethal gibbing is the “good” option. As you know she comes back right at the end to fight on your side.

2. The other option, the “evil” one has you encouraging her to possess her daughter. She will stay with you through Pitax at that point I think.

[fefnir3284]

at the end of what fight? I did the fight, i said dont possess your daughter, a lightning bolt hit her, she turned ot paste and NOTHING.... jaethal is still quite dead. Ive even went back to the capital, waited.... she is still dead.. pitax started there crap i took out the bards, the rogues and the monsters and she is STILL DEAD!!!!! just did the dream with nyrissa and guess what? yup jaethal is still DEAD... wtf!!!!

so basically I cant gear her up, level her up,and she is stuck with that crap +2 frost scythe for the end game? and I have to do all of pitax, and whatever after that?

[CBAnaesthesia]

Originally posted by fefnir3284:

at the end of what fight? I did the fight, i said dont possess your daughter, a lightning bolt hit her, she turned ot paste and NOTHING.... jaethal is still quite dead. Ive even went back to the capital, waited.... she is still dead.. pitax started there crap i took out the bards, the rogues and the monsters and she is STILL DEAD!!!!! just did the dream with nyrissa and guess what? yup jaethal is still DEAD... wtf!!!!

so basically I cant gear her up, level her up,and she is stuck with that crap +2 frost scythe for the end game? and I have to do all of pitax, and whatever after that?

Yes, if she blew up, she won't be back until VERY late in the game. It's not based on time elapsed, it's triggered by a specific event after the game tells you it's the point of no return. It won't be possible for you to miss the event, either.

She also won't be stuck with that scythe, you'll have access to a really excellent one at basically the same time that you get her back. She'll come back at the same level as you, as long as you have XP sharing on.
However, if you want to use her for Pitax, you have to let her possess her daughter.

If you made her allow the undead she created to die, and if you didn't let her do the ritual on the other inquisitor, and you make sure the crazy priest survives Tristian's final quest, you should be OK, but if you want to 100% make sure you get her back, don't finish Tristian's quest "Saving Grace."

[Reki]

No problem with her death by roleplay. Its ok. But She was my Culture advisor, and she got nice +5 sword, which game doesn't let me get back. What should I do? That is redicilous. Why she can't be resurrected just now?

[Dega1000]

Originally posted by CBAnaesthesia:

Originally posted by fefnir3284:

at the end of what fight? I did the fight, i said dont possess your daughter, a lightning bolt hit her, she turned ot paste and NOTHING.... jaethal is still quite dead. Ive even went back to the capital, waited.... she is still dead.. pitax started there crap i took out the bards, the rogues and the monsters and she is STILL DEAD!!!!! just did the dream with nyrissa and guess what? yup jaethal is still DEAD... wtf!!!!

so basically I cant gear her up, level her up,and she is stuck with that crap +2 frost scythe for the end game? and I have to do all of pitax, and whatever after that?

Yes, if she blew up, she won't be back until VERY late in the game. It's not based on time elapsed, it's triggered by a specific event after the game tells you it's the point of no return. It won't be possible for you to miss the event, either.

She also won't be stuck with that scythe, you'll have access to a really excellent one at basically the same time that you get her back. She'll come back at the same level as you, as long as you have XP sharing on.
However, if you want to use her for Pitax, you have to let her possess her daughter.

If you made her allow the undead she created to die, and if you didn't let her do the ritual on the other inquisitor, and you make sure the crazy priest survives Tristian's final quest, you should be OK, but if you want to 100% make sure you get her back, don't finish Tristian's quest "Saving Grace."

I'm stuck in her final quest. Here what i did in the previous quests:
1) i made her undone the undead elf she created;
2) i let her learn the secret spell from the old priestess of Urgathoa;
2.1) i ask her to resurrect the old priestess (it seemed the good choice to respect the agreement).

Now, i think 2 could be the reasons i cannot convince her to spare the daughter:
1) i made a mistake in asking her to resurrect the old priestess; or
2) during the dialogue with Jaethal your character needs to pass a hidden persuasion test (like the one during the dialogue with the first king trapped in the crown).

Did you guys understand the solution to unlock the "good path" for Jaethal?
Thanks

[Modraneth]

why all of you saying you need t olet her posses her daughter for you to use her agaisnt pitax? simply ignore her quest. go do pitax quest and after you have finish everything in pitax go do jaethal quest. i have done that nothing wrong happen

also someone knows about a good spy minister? jaethal was my spy and know i have no one to do it properly

[Orange]

I... don't understand the problem.
You literally have a choice, defy Urgothoa and get smited for turning your back on a Goddess you followed.
Or go along with the Goddesses will, letting Jaethal kill or posess her daughter.

Originally posted by CBAnaesthesia:

I'm stuck in her final quest. Here what i did in the previous quests:
1) i made her undone the undead elf she created;
2) i let her learn the secret spell from the old priestess of Urgathoa;
2.1) i ask her to resurrect the old priestess (it seemed the good choice to respect the agreement).

Now, i think 2 could be the reasons i cannot convince her to spare the daughter:
1) i made a mistake in asking her to resurrect the old priestess; or
2) during the dialogue with Jaethal your character needs to pass a hidden persuasion test (like the one during the dialogue with the first king trapped in the crown).

Did you guys understand the solution to unlock the "good path" for Jaethal?
Thanks

1) is correct
2) is wrong and you are missing discussion afterwards in tavern, you don't bring back the priestess because she is Evil (she did sacrifice innocents and tried to possess her own daughters) letting her live is not a good choice and only reinforces Urgotha's influence, afterwards you need to talk with Jaethal in her room about the Pharasmian Inquisitor and discuss how fanatism is not the way.

Only then can you turn her away from Urgothoa ( there will still be a visual persuasion check option for her counter-arguments if memmory serves )

Originally posted by Modraneth:

also someone knows about a good spy minister? jaethal was my spy and know i have no one to do it properly

Jubilost and Jaethal are the best spymasters, as they are both cunning difference is Jaebae is way more bloodthirsty.
Ekkun is a nice guy but doesn't give the best advice when it comes to spycraft.

[Sotanaht]

Is it possible to have Jaethal, Tristian, AND Amiri survive the House? I've read that supposedly if you use both Jaethal and Tristian in your party while completing their companion quests the good way, they don't kill each other. However I believe completing Tristian's quest properly means missing Amiri's which I'm fairly sure means she dies in the House if not before. It would be nice to get an "everybody lives" (technically) ending.

As it is though I'm planning to keep Jaethal undead. I know there exists an ending slide where that happens, it's sort of her neutral end.

[Orange]

Originally posted by Sotanaht:

Is it possible to have Jaethal, Tristian, AND Amiri survive the House? I've read that supposedly if you use both Jaethal and Tristian in your party while completing their companion quests the good way, they don't kill each other. However I believe completing Tristian's quest properly means missing Amiri's which I'm fairly sure means she dies in the House if not before. It would be nice to get an "everybody lives" (technically) ending.

As it is though I'm planning to keep Jaethal undead. I know there exists an ending slide where that happens, it's sort of her neutral end.

Do Amiri's quest first, then do Tristain's on the Barbarian chapter that should allow it.

Jaethal and Tristain will not both survive if they're both followers of their respective Goddesses.
Sarenrae and Urgothoa don't play nice with one another (One purges undead with fire the other pretty much promotes them)

[Sotanaht]

Originally posted by Orange:

Originally posted by Sotanaht:

Is it possible to have Jaethal, Tristian, AND Amiri survive the House? I've read that supposedly if you use both Jaethal and Tristian in your party while completing their companion quests the good way, they don't kill each other. However I believe completing Tristian's quest properly means missing Amiri's which I'm fairly sure means she dies in the House if not before. It would be nice to get an "everybody lives" (technically) ending.

As it is though I'm planning to keep Jaethal undead. I know there exists an ending slide where that happens, it's sort of her neutral end.

Do Amiri's quest first, then do Tristain's on the Barbarian chapter that should allow it.

Jaethal and Tristain will not both survive if they're both followers of their respective Goddesses.
Sarenrae and Urgothoa don't play nice with one another (One purges undead with fire the other pretty much promotes them)

Actually that's not really accurate. Sarenrae is the god of forgiveness, so much so that she's willing to give even the evil gods themselves a chance at redemption, including Urgothoa. The only one she goes full PURGE on is Rovagug.

Anyway my first complete game I did pretty much that. I had Amari and Tristian live, Jaethal was resurrected by Pharasma, but then Tristian killed Jaethal anyway. Either there was some detail on Tristian's quest I missed (possibly because I did Amiri first), or else you just need Tristian and Jaethal in the party together when doing their stuff. At the moment though since I'm actually using Jaethal I'm just going to skip Tristian's final quest entirely.

[Orange]

Originally posted by Sotanaht:

Originally posted by Orange:

Do Amiri's quest first, then do Tristain's on the Barbarian chapter that should allow it.

Jaethal and Tristain will not both survive if they're both followers of their respective Goddesses.
Sarenrae and Urgothoa don't play nice with one another (One purges undead with fire the other pretty much promotes them)

Actually that's not really accurate. Sarenrae is the god of forgiveness, so much so that she's willing to give even the evil gods themselves a chance at redemption, including Urgothoa. The only one she goes full PURGE on is Rovagug.

Anyway my first complete game I did pretty much that. I had Amari and Tristian live, Jaethal was resurrected by Pharasma, but then Tristian killed Jaethal anyway. Either there was some detail on Tristian's quest I missed (possibly because I did Amiri first), or else you just need Tristian and Jaethal in the party together when doing their stuff. At the moment though since I'm actually using Jaethal I'm just going to skip Tristian's final quest entirely.

Sarenrae's lore is about forgiveness but people tend to forget her entire crusades againts Undeath, she equates killing them as mercy so their souls might move on (not wrong). If you're curious you can just read it up on Pathfinder


That's odd supposedly Tristain should have no qualms with Jaethal if Pharasma brought her back

[Sotanaht]

Originally posted by Orange:

Originally posted by Sotanaht:

Actually that's not really accurate. Sarenrae is the god of forgiveness, so much so that she's willing to give even the evil gods themselves a chance at redemption, including Urgothoa. The only one she goes full PURGE on is Rovagug.

Anyway my first complete game I did pretty much that. I had Amari and Tristian live, Jaethal was resurrected by Pharasma, but then Tristian killed Jaethal anyway. Either there was some detail on Tristian's quest I missed (possibly because I did Amiri first), or else you just need Tristian and Jaethal in the party together when doing their stuff. At the moment though since I'm actually using Jaethal I'm just going to skip Tristian's final quest entirely.

Sarenrae's lore is about forgiveness but people tend to forget her entire crusades againts Undeath, she equates killing them as mercy so their souls might move on (not wrong). If your curious you can just read it up on Pathfinder


That's odd supposedly Tristain should have no qualms with Jaethal if Pharasma brought her back

He doesn't. Nyrissa tricks him then he instantly regrets it.