Consistently dealing with Wisdom drain (Soul Eaters)

[Solvem Probler]

Is there ANY way to defend against their wisdom draining attack at all? I haven't found any.

[CBAnaesthesia]

Death Ward should work. Greater Restoration will get rid of it, Heal will not, FYI.

[Solvem Probler]

Originally posted by CBAnaesthesia:

Death Ward should work. Greater Restoration will get rid of it, Heal will not, FYI.

Death Ward does not work, the drain is not a death effect.

[AzureTheGamerKobold]

is no way to get around it you just have to heal it after the fact ... there drain isnt necromantic, so things like death ward dont effect it. Is alot of that in the game so you should be prepared to deal with it... best solution is probably use a bunch of summon monsters to tie up the soul eaters while you burn them down.

[CBAnaesthesia]

Originally posted by NihilVerum:

Originally posted by CBAnaesthesia:

Death Ward should work. Greater Restoration will get rid of it, Heal will not, FYI.

Death Ward does not work, the drain is not a death effect.

Right, Soul Eaters, sorry.
I believe Soul Eaters actually have two separate Wis-draining effects, someone posted it here a while back - Death Ward protects against one of them, but the other effect you do have to heal after the fact. Summons, Mirror Image, kiting, and other ways to not get hit in the first place are the only way to deal with the second ability.

[Solvem Probler]

Originally posted by CBAnaesthesia:

Originally posted by NihilVerum:

Death Ward does not work, the drain is not a death effect.

Right, Soul Eaters, sorry.
I believe Soul Eaters actually have two separate Wis-draining effects, someone posted it here a while back - Death Ward protects against one of them, but the other effect you do have to heal after the fact. Summons, Mirror Image, kiting, and other ways to not get hit in the first place are the only way to deal with the second ability.

That is probably correct, I noticed that they can drain up to 9 Wis in one hit, which is a bit insane.

[Reaver79]

Yea just had Harrim kite 4 soul eaters all over the place, seems to be the easiest solution.. Never seen em take more than 4 wis in a single hit, you sure you diddent just see a 4 in the wrong light ? after all base shape on 4 and 9 are pretty similar if it goes fast.

[AzureTheGamerKobold]

they have 2 claw attacks each claw attack can drain your wisdom, meaning they have to land both hits hence the second wisdom drain. But they have no other skill to drain wisdom from what i can see.

[CBAnaesthesia]

Originally posted by AzureTheGamerKobold:

they have 2 claw attacks each claw attack can drain your wisdom, meaning they have to land both hits hence the second wisdom drain. But they have no other skill to drain wisdom from what i can see.

Maybe, I was just repeating what someone else said here. They might have been speculating based on PnP rules.

[Entropie]

They do not drain wisdom, they inflict wisdom damage, though considering that they can deal large amounts of wis damage quickly it sometimes makes little difference.

[AzureTheGamerKobold]

Originally posted by Entropie:

They do not drain wisdom, they inflict wisdom damage, though considering that they can deal large amounts of wis damage quickly it sometimes makes little difference.

yea this is correct it's technically ability DAMAGE not DRAIN which is different, damage is easier to fix basically have some restoration and lesser restoration ready for these bastards.

[Lane]

They do touch attacks so AC is not going to help you, thankfully they don't hit too hard.

Fortitude saves are your friend here, get yourself 20+ fortitude save and you won't get drained unless you get exteremely unlucky and roll 1s. There are multitude of ways to raise that save: competence, luck, morale, sacred and a whole bunch of others I can't remember from the top of my head. Use different sources and they will stack.

Even if you roll few 1s and get drained abit, it is not too bad. These can be healed by lesser restoration and will go away themselves by resting. You just need to get through fight without running out of wisdom.

[Shadenuat]

Summon Undead, CC, Crusader's Edge, Banishment, Dismissal, etc.