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=[NK]= Col. Jack O'Neil 2018 年 11 月 13 日 下午 5:30
Suggestions for party composition
Hey all!!

So first off I use the respec mod so I can change any of the companions. Second of all I mostly love playing full CC/buff/support casters, which is what I've been playing in the 3 games I've had to restart getting to mid game :( (But I secretly love the idea of doing a fourth playthrough with CC) :p

So I'm not sure to go a human conjuration wizard, or a str defender of the something something druid, possibly semi focusing into trip attacks. I could use feedback on druid though, I just don't know if it's worth it seems like pets get stupid amounts of stat bonuses and would probably be better at being an animal that I would shile shaped?

So the team make up I'm definitely having is

Valarie as an aasimar paladin of Imodae
Elven Octavia as AT focusing in evocation subtype
Tristan as an aasimar cleric of that subclass that he is with good and healing domain

Now normally I always like taking Amiri as her normal full barbarian but would be open to suggestions as a replacement or respec

If I don't go a druid I am considering swapping Amiri out for a druid Harrim

And I normally always take Ekundayo because I like him, but again, open to suggestions instead.

I feel like if I don't go CC/buff/support wizard, I'll need another person to pick up that role, either by wizard, or another class (But I don't think any other class can do it better)

I'm not particulary interested in alchemists or cheesing to get absoluete max sneak attack 115d6 damage with dips into vivi for everyone, I just want a party I enjoy playing as I've point buyed them all into 20 to offset things being a bit more optomised.

TL;DR, Should I play the full CC support buff caster I normally play, or str defender of the something something Druid, and other than Val, Oct and Tristan, who should I take? (Doing full respecs)
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Morgian 2018 年 11 月 13 日 下午 5:38 
My team is fighter/rogue, pally, monk, cleric, bard, and sorcerer.

Seeing you covered pally, arcane caster and cleric already, I suggest adding a fighter/rogue to cover trickery and DPS (dual wielding either daggers or kukris, I went 2 rogue levels to 1 fighter). A traditional monk works well and gets some nice immunities later on. A druid would round out the party, if you don't want a bard...that is offense & light support vs heavy support and light healing.
=[NK]= Col. Jack O'Neil 2018 年 11 月 13 日 下午 5:49 
The healing isn't a problem with Val being able to Lay on hands, and tristan being able to heal (Using phylactery and that ring I came across somewhere for more d6 with channel), as well as using the CC I normally mitagate a bunch of damage.

I have never really liked the bard or the alchemist!! I don't know what's wrong with me haha :p

I know that nok nok makes a great TWF rogue, didn't use him in the playthrough I did that part off the game, but it could definetly be an option
Babbles 2018 年 11 月 13 日 下午 6:07 
So far, on second play through [Challenging]

Main: Eldritch Archer untill level 13, Eldritch Knight from then on. [Edit: I lie, I appear to be solely Eldritch Archer ????]
Val: TSS Level 5, Thug Level 4, TSS rest of the way - aim for Dazzling Display.
Amiri: All Sacred Huntsmaster. Aminal Domain. Smilodon.
Linzi: No one cares. Turns into a book
Reg: Eldritch Scion into DD, level seven both, stopped caring.
Octavia: AT, of course.
Nok-Nok: Level 7 Knife Master, Level 7 Vivisectionist. Still cute, still cool. Still savage.
Ekyndayo: 3 Sacred Huntsmaster, rest Ranger. Anti FEY all the way :)
Harrim: Cleric. Just, cleric.
Tristan: Starts with 3 Ecclesiurthurge, 4 Sylvan Sorcerer, 3 Sacred Huntsmaster, rest Mad Dog Barbarian. Still ♥♥♥♥, will always be ♥♥♥♥.
Jubilost: Extra Bombs, Every 2nd Level. Extra Bombs :)

Game winning fun character:

Jaethal, Starts 1 Inqusistor, 3 into Aldori Defender, 3 into Rogue, 5 into Dualist, then 4th Rogue, 4th Aldori - probably Aldori from now on. Kicks ass. A Dualist Dual Weilding Dualing Swords. Win Buttons :)

Edit: Went Aldori on Jae, probably best to go Fighter and sink a feat into Dualing Swords, Aldori is a bit lacking after level 5.


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=[NK]= Col. Jack O'Neil 2018 年 11 月 14 日 上午 12:35 
I haven't looked at the sacred huntsman before, I'll investigate further ;)
=[NK]= Col. Jack O'Neil 2018 年 11 月 14 日 上午 6:24 
I don't really want to bump, but has anyone got any feedback on druids?? :)
FeurinLongcastle 2018 年 11 月 14 日 上午 7:12 
I easily steamroll the game on Hard with the current setup (as in, I right-click auto-attack 90% of encounters). Harder encounters I start with temporary buffs like Haste and fireball the enemy in advance.

Ekundayo -- straight Ranger
Nok-Nok -- straight Knifemaster
Harrim -- straight Cleric
Jubilost -- straight Grenadier
Tristian -- straight Empyreal Sorceror
MC -- Rogue3/MonkX

Your damage output is so high every enemy dies in 1-2 rounds. With full buffs your frontline consisting of MC/Ekun's Dog/Nok-Nok (Enlarge Person on Harrim for extra reach to keep him from tanking) never get hit very hard, and even when they do a single Channel Positive Energy from Harrim patches them up.

It's super easy mode from around level 6 onwards.
=[NK]= Col. Jack O'Neil 2018 年 11 月 14 日 上午 7:20 
Yeah well that's why I used 20 point buys for everyone. I do hate the flat bonuses the enemies get from difficulty though..

Still though.. Doesn't seem like many people use druid!
Babbles 2018 年 11 月 14 日 下午 10:58 
The thing with Druids: Most of their class abilities are 'turn into a leopard and hit twice for 1d6' - as opposed to a Dualist - Parry + Reposte.

Druids are cool in BG2 due to Insect Swarm, however, even there you simply go Humand Dual Class Ranger into Cleric and get Insect Swarm anyway.

I would rather Amiri hits that Wild Hunt Monarch with a +5 Holy Sonic Glaive that casts mass greater heroism than tuen into an elemental and get 15 resist everything ♥♥♥♥ blocking me.
=[NK]= Col. Jack O'Neil 2018 年 11 月 15 日 上午 4:21 
Thanks for your input! Yeah ok just so torn as to what to play!! Esspecially because like I said, the pets get such a good stat boost as it is, and it seems like a feat tax with natural spell, if you do weapon focus /claw or bite, if you maybe get combat expertise and trip /greater trip.

And there's nothing that blew me away with thier spells compared to cc wizard
Sev 2018 年 11 月 15 日 上午 9:10 
Thanks for your input! Yeah ok just so torn as to what to play!! Esspecially because like I said, the pets get such a good stat boost as it is, and it seems like a feat tax with natural spell, if you do weapon focus /claw or bite, if you maybe get combat expertise and trip /greater trip.

And there's nothing that blew me away with thier spells compared to cc wizard

Sylvan Sorcerer is the class for you then!

Starts with a full blown Animal Companion while having access to Arcane spell goodness. Even gets great companion buffs like Mage armour, Animal Growth, Haste, Blur, Greater invis (lol), etc.
corisai 2018 年 11 月 15 日 上午 10:09 
For normal & challenging you can even deal with single support char - Mystic Theurge.

Especially with EXP boosting mods (dynamic curve one instead of flat cheaty bonus).

4 full min-maxed damage dealers is insanely fun thing to have (best IMHO is 2 melee & 2 ranged, one among them should have a pet as off-tank and quick response dispossable tool).
Super-XIX 2018 年 11 月 15 日 上午 10:18 
Druid is a neat class, but doesn't have a lot of synergy between its class features. Luckily, it's a 9th level spellcaster with lots of good spells and a pet it can buff the bejezus out of, so it's pretty good to go.

You do have to build for what you want to do with it, though. A caster druid isn't just going to turn into a smilodon and start messing stuff up.
Autocthon 2018 年 11 月 15 日 上午 10:24 
引用自 The Superjew
Druid is a neat class, but doesn't have a lot of synergy between its class features. Luckily, it's a 9th level spellcaster with lots of good spells and a pet it can buff the bejezus out of, so it's pretty good to go.

You do have to build for what you want to do with it, though. A caster druid isn't just going to turn into a smilodon and start messing stuff up.
Druid internal synergy is great. Targeted buffs + Companion are awesome. The only questionable internal synergy is the shapeshifting but.... One feat to become a full caster Elemental for 15 hours a day is worth it.
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