Need some advice on levelling up companion advisors

[Gregorovitch]

I'm using Ragongar (general), Tristian (Councillor) and Jubilost (Treasurer) at the moment as advisors but have no plans to use them in my party at the moment and never have used them in my party.

My understanding is that one of their stats (which can get increased at level up points) is added to their DC rolls on missions. Which means as I understand it avantage in levelling them up.

The problem is I haven't got a clue how to level up these characters, let alone three or four levels at a time. It's a nightmare. I can't just get the stat point I need without taking countless decisions I have no idea what the consequences of are. For example, what weapon would I want Ragongar to use? I don't know 'cos I've never used him. Even worse, what spells to give him? I haven't a clue, same reason.

I could of course swat up on tutorials etc about build options for these characters, but that's like a long grind, everyone's got their own opinion on it. You know, Tristian is a certain kind of cleric I am not familiar with and I know abolutely nothing about Magus or Alchemist classes dispiite 20+ years playing these games. I really, really don't want to have to spend hours swatting up on this right now, I've got a Troll King to deal with.

Boning up on the six chars I do use in my party is more than enough for me to cope with right now.

So anybody got any suggestionsd on WFT I should do about this?

[Marcos_DS]

If you don't use them anyway, just pick random stuff. For kingdom, only the relevant stat counts (str for general, int for treasurer, wis for council), so the build can be really bad since you don't plan to use them as party member...

You could make Regognar a Dragon Disciple (adds +4 strength, which is +2 to his kingdom rolls), but thats about it.

[CHAO$$$]

just equip corresponding stat boosting items (see guide section)
+6strength belt for regongar, +6 wis for both priests (headpiece) and so on.
These matter much more than anything else (you get like +2/3 stats from leveling during the majority of the game. As for leveling most of these are farily straightforward. If you keep leveling ithem in their first class you dont fail too horribly in most cases. Especially if you play on normal or lower.

[corisai]

Well, you MAY need them later ;) so it nice idea to level them normaly. Maybe without any min-maxing, but not picking insane feats too.

[Cain]

Yeah, except from choosing dragon disciple for rReg, equipment is much more important than what you do when you level them up.

[Gregorovitch]

This is the thing, I may need to take them out later for some companion quest or something, I just don't know. Or I may just change my mind about the party etc.

Also I am playing on hard so builds sort of matter a bit.

I get the point about the stat booster equipment, however I ain't got the cash for that sort of thing right now.

[corisai]

Originally posted by Gregorovitch:

I get the point about the stat booster equipment, however I ain't got the cash for that sort of thing right now.

You will find more then enough +stats items around your adventures to equip them with obsolete one. Well, ofk this will work if your party isn't extremly unbalanced (like all Int users, or all Str-based)

[Gregorovitch]

Yeah, I suppose at the moment I'm just looking at one measly point (in str, int, wis) for each of them, help a little with the DC rolls on projects etc. I know it doesn't seem like a lot but every point counts doesn't it,,,,,

Just seems like a mountain of research/work to get it. I mean the idea of making Regognar a Dragon Disciple for a str +4 seems totally sound. But I haven't the foggiest what a Dragon Disciple is or how to make one

[Marcos_DS]

Originally posted by Gregorovitch:

This is the thing, I may need to take them out later for some companion quest or something, I just don't know. Or I may just change my mind about the party etc.

You can still use the respec mod if you need to actually use them.. But even on hard, you can afford to have one party member that isn't optimal (for a short time during companion quests) .

Tristian can be pure cleric, feats don't matter and you get all cleric spells anyway. Keep him in the back.

Jubilost can be pure alchemist. Just improve his bombs (weapon focus, more bombs, precise shot, only hit enemies etc) and he will do fine. Also keep him in the back.

Reg works well with any melee class (spiced up with 4 levels of RDD) if you don't like his magus class (which requires some mico). I made a Magus1/RDD4/Ranger x with boon companion out of him, which is pretty low maintainance.

Originally posted by Gregorovitch:

Just seems like a mountain of research/work to get it. I mean the idea of making Regognar a Dragon Disciple for a str +4 seems totally sound. But I haven't the foggiest what a Dragon Disciple is or how to make one

Its a prestige class. Prereq is Arcana 5 (already a class skill for Reg) and lvl 1 spontanous arcane spells (from Magus). So just increase arcana on lvl up and you can take it at lvl 6. 4 levels are enough for +4 str.

[Gregorovitch]

Thanks Marcos. That's a great help.