2D6 extra sneak attack.

[Vip]

I created a L9 Elf Merc, 3 Rogue + 6 Magus Sword Saint.
I was expecting it to have 3D6 sneak attack but it's hitting with 5D6 Sneak Attack.
Can anyone tell me where the extra 2 D6 are coming from?

Leveled up as below
1) Sword Saint - Chosen Weapon: Dueling Sword, Dodge.
2) Rogue - (weapon finesse and Sneak attack 1)
3) Rogue - (evasion) Rogue Talent: Slow reactions, Combat mobility
4) Rogue - (Sneak attack 2) Finesse Training: Dueling Sword.
5) Sword Saint - (Spell Strike), Accomplished Sneak Attacker
6) Sword Saint - Arcane Accuracy
7) Sword Saint - (Perfect Strike), Outflank
8) Sword Saint - Bonus Magus Feat: Aldori Dueling Mastery
9) Sword Saint - Enduring Blade, Extra Arcane Pool.

I expected 3D6 Sneak attack (2D6 from 3 levels of Rogue + 1D6 from accomplished sneak attacker).

Does anyone know how I'm getting 5D6 sneak attack?

Thanks.

EDIT: using shocking grasp via spellstrike on a flanked enemy also gives +5D6 sneak attack.

[Dusty_Monk]

Are you wearing a necklace?

[Vip]

Just checked, equiped as below

Necklace Natural armour +2
Belt of incredibly Dex +2
Headband of vast Intelligence +2
Cloak of resistance +1
Ring of protect +1
Bracers of Armour +4
Frost Dueling Sword +1

[dwarfpcfan]

outflank gives you an extra +1d6 I think when it triggers, but I could be wrong.

[Vip]

From the in game description, Outflank gives +4 to hit bonus and on a crit gives your flanking partner an Attack of Opportunity.

I think Precise Strike gives +1D6 damage.
Thanks

[ericsaxon35]

There is a necklace that gives +2d6, but you are not wearing it, which is why Dust_Monk was was asking...

[wendigo211]

Are you buffing with Sense Vitals? (IIRC it's not a Magus spell, but I can't be bothered to check)

[Vip]

Testing against bandits random encounter
No buffs other than these abilites activated;
SpellStrike
Perfect Critical
Enduring Blade
Just attacking with the merc and Valerie to provide flanking.

Edit: Deactiviating the 3 abilities above still shows +5D6 sneak attack.

[klaek]

Could be an issue with precise strike counting twice. I believe I saw a post about that earlier. Perhaps try sneak attack against a flat footed target instead of using flanking?

[Vip]

Originally posted by klaek:

Could be an issue with precise strike counting twice. I believe I saw a post about that earlier. Perhaps try sneak attack against a flat footed target instead of using flanking?

The Merc does not have precise strike but Valarie does. Good idea I'll give it a go tomorrow, got to go :(

Thanks for the suggestions everyone

[Alias]

Go invis and test a strike without flanking.

[Vip]

Tested attacking alone whilst invisible, sneak attack = +5D6

I just wanted to make sure I understood the feats/system and hadn't missed anything.

[eRe4s3r]

Accomplished Sneak Attacker gives +2d6 (last i checked)
rogue levels give base 1d6 per 2 levels (3 rounded down to 2, 1d6)
rogue perks give +2d6 (+1 , +2 sneak attack)

So yea

[Vip]

Hi, I'm not sure that is correct
My main character is a L9 plain rogue and they are also hitting for +5D6 sneak attack, they don't have accomplished sneak attacker.

If

Originally posted by eRe4s3r:

rogue levels give base 1d6 per 2 levels (3 rounded down to 2, 1d6)
rogue perks give +2d6 (+1 , +2 sneak attack)

Then my plain L9 rogue would be
Rogue levels base 1d6 per 2 levels (9 rounded down to 4 = 4d6
Rogue perks give +5d6 (sneak attack 1 to 5)
for a total of 9d6 but the plain rogue is only generating +5d6 sneak attack.

I can't find any mention in the game of 'Rogue levels give base 1d6 per 2 levels rounded down' where can I find that info? I can see the sneak attack feat that adds +1d6 and that the rogue gets that for free on every odd level.

Also in the game description of accomplished sneak attack says +1d6, is the description wrong?

Thanks.

[1 (all muted)]

Yeah, looks like a bug and game use lvl/2 + accomplished.

Gonna test it with lvl 1 rogue.

[jazzable]

You get 1d6 sneak attack every odd level, starting at lvl1.
That´s 3d6 at lvl 5, 5d6 at lvl 9. Accomplished sneak gives indeed another 1d6 .
So yeah, something is not right here.