Pathfinder: Kingmaker

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Kshahdoo Oct 20, 2018 @ 8:18am
Poor barbarian women
According to Amiri, they all are oppressed by misogynist bastards... But most of barbarian leaders I've met so far somehow turned out to be women. And not just women, but warriors. So are barbarian women actually oppressed or Amiri has been lying all the time?
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Sudanna Oct 20, 2018 @ 8:21am 
Most of the barbarians you meet aren't from her tribe. Each tribe does things a little differently. When you do her personal quest, the view you get of her tribe mostly bears her out.
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J4n1 Oct 20, 2018 @ 8:21am 
Different clans, different customs.

Amiri's clan seems to have major hangups on who gets to do what based on what they got between their legs.
Kshahdoo Oct 20, 2018 @ 8:27am 
Originally posted by Sudanna:
Most of the barbarians you meet aren't from her tribe. Each tribe does things a little differently. When you do her personal quest, the view you get of her tribe mostly bears her out.

Nah, you should read the texts better. Amiri whined, that the main reason her tribe was so rude to her, was other tribes' mockery. So no, it's not just her tribe... at least, according to her.
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For_Science! Oct 20, 2018 @ 8:29am 
Originally posted by Kshahdoo:
Nah, you should read the texts better. Amiri whined, that the main reason her tribe was so rude to her, was other tribes' mokery. So no, it's not just her tribe... at least, according to her.
Did you read her talk about the frozen tundra where she grew up? Amiri is not from around here; the barbarian tribes you meet in the River Kingdoms have no relation to ANY of the tribes from her story.
Sudanna Oct 20, 2018 @ 8:31am 
The chieftain in her tribe's camp says pretty similar things. The tribes you meet with women leaders and warriors are not the tribes that teased Amiri's tribe, and even the ones that did don't necessarily have as extreme a reaction as Amiri's tribe. There's plenty of tribes.
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Kshahdoo Oct 20, 2018 @ 8:33am 
Originally posted by For_Science!:
Originally posted by Kshahdoo:
Nah, you should read the texts better. Amiri whined, that the main reason her tribe was so rude to her, was other tribes' mokery. So no, it's not just her tribe... at least, according to her.
Did you read her talk about the frozen tundra where she grew up? Amiri is not from around here; the barbarian tribes you meet in the River Kingdoms have no relation to ANY of the tribes from her story.

Man, it's the same barbarian nation, they came from the same country, there were unequivocal words about it.
living_one Oct 20, 2018 @ 8:34am 
With different customs. They're not an unified nation.

They literally live in a land with nuclear winter, where a giant as* spaceship fell millenia ago.
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Kshahdoo Oct 20, 2018 @ 8:38am 
Originally posted by living_one:
With different customs. They're not an unified nation.

That girl from Amiri's tribe mentioned the other tribe, she was going to ask for help, and that tribe was Tiger Lords or somehow like this, i.e. exactly the tribe, the party met later. It's the same barbarian nation.
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ShroudedInLight Oct 20, 2018 @ 8:39am 
If you play a female Ruler the old chieftan in Amari's tribe makes some pretty sexist comments at you.

Made me feel like punching her, but I let Amari do it
Kshahdoo Oct 20, 2018 @ 8:41am 
Originally posted by Cousin Okri:
If you play a female Ruler the old chieftan in Amari's tribe makes some pretty sexist comments at you.

Made me feel like punching her, but I let Amari do it

I'm not about him, though, but about Amiri and her story. She sounds like a female warrior is something outrageous in barbarian tribes, while it turns out, it's not.
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Lethe Oct 20, 2018 @ 8:41am 
Originally posted by living_one:
With different customs. They're not an unified nation.

They literally live in a land with nuclear winter, where a giant as* spaceship fell millenia ago.
whats it like? are barbarians looting laser guns from wreckage?
living_one Oct 20, 2018 @ 8:45am 
Originally posted by Kshahdoo:
Originally posted by living_one:
With different customs. They're not an unified nation.

That girl from Amiri's tribe mentioned the other tribe, she was going to ask for help, and that tribe was Tiger Lords or somehow like this, i.e. exactly the tribe, the party met later. It's the same barbarian nation.


https://pathfinderwiki.com/wiki/Kellid

"Relationships between clans

Clans battle over resources and prestige; even among Kellids, a clan makes and keeps few friends. Clan members keep to their own.[9]"

They're. Not. A. Unified. Nation.

Originally posted by Lethe:
whats it like? are barbarians looting laser guns from wreckage?

They don't. The Technic League does- aside from magic the have robots (not golems) and nanotechnology. You can actually find a piece of Technic League nanotech during the game :) Heck, Golarion is the third world from the sun, but there's a planet in the system populated only by robots.
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J4n1 Oct 20, 2018 @ 8:45am 
Originally posted by Kshahdoo:
Originally posted by Cousin Okri:
If you play a female Ruler the old chieftan in Amari's tribe makes some pretty sexist comments at you.

Made me feel like punching her, but I let Amari do it

I'm not about him, though, but about Amiri and her story.
He is part of Amiri's story, and corroborates her story, as does Amiri's friend you talk to in the camp.

Amiri's clan are sexist ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ who think women can't (shouldn't) be warriors, and there being one makes their tribe a source of mockery (and it might have).
Now if that mockery is because of there being a woman warrior stronger than the men among them, or them being so adamant about women being weak, and then Amiri kicking their butts, is up in the air.
Augusto Ottaviano Oct 20, 2018 @ 8:56am 
Kshahdoo, Amiri comes from the Land of the Linnorm Kings, the kellid barbarians you meet in the Stolen Lands are from Numeria.
This difference in customs actually clicks out very well: Numeria is a meltin pot of races, technology, and half baked traditions; easy to imagine unusual points of view (like barbarian miners), and they actually cared more for the money than the battle.
On the other hand, Amiri barbaric land is in the harsh north and far more isolated; not hard to imagine those tribes being very conservative and ruthless.

You can see the difference in the way they speak too: Amiri seems less literate than most of the other barbarians you speak with.
All in all, her mysoginistic backstory is world consistent.
Edstyles Oct 20, 2018 @ 8:58am 
A barbarian is a barbarian no matter where from and so the fact there is female bsrbarian leaders could just simply be cause devs felt like it . Maybe people would whine if there was only male. Remember it's a game doesnt always have to make sense xD
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