Pathfinder: Kingmaker

Pathfinder: Kingmaker

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Zagareus Sep 26, 2018 @ 7:47am
Premade Characters stronger?
I started the game today and when playing games like this, I'm not very good at coming up with good starting builds, so I generally just copy the stats of a premade character, and just use theirs after customizing my character's appearance. But I noticed something when doing that with this game, and that's premade characters are literally stronger than custom ones.

What I noticed is when I tried copying the premade character "Hedwirg", his stats were:

STR 20 (18 with the +2 racial bonus)
DEX 15
CON 14
INT 13
WIS 10
CHA 10

But when I tried copying that for my character, all I could get was:

STR 18 (16 with the +2 racial bonus)
DEX 15
CON 14
INT 13
WIS 10
CHA 10

This means "Hedwirg", the premade fighter, starts with 2 additional stat points than your custom character.

I also noticed that along with his three starting feats of Two-Weapon Fighting, Toughness, and Shield Bash, he had an additional special ability "Acrobatics (Mobility)", which your custom character doesn't start with.

I tried creating the builds of other premade characters as custom characters, and sure enough - each one had 2 more stat points than what you can give your custom characters, as well as the additional special ability "Acrobatics (Mobility)".

Now I have no problem with playing the game as a premade character, I just find it weird that in a game that allows you to make your own character, they treat it like a handicap by making their own premade characters stronger right from the start.

Seems like an odd game design choice to me.





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FallingFoxGaming Sep 26, 2018 @ 7:51am 
I haven't looked into this at all, but is the premade wearing any gear that boosts stats?
Kishorn Commando Sep 26, 2018 @ 7:53am 
I recall there was some concern in beta about their stats, especially Valerie and her low Str, especially if you try to get her into full plate...

Zagareus Sep 26, 2018 @ 7:59am 
Originally posted by MonsterGodz:
I haven't looked into this at all, but is the premade wearing any gear that boosts stats?
Not that I'm aware, this is all from the character creation. It would seem odd that they would include boosts from gear on it.
matthew Sep 26, 2018 @ 8:04am 
just cheked this myself, those stats are impossible to recreate, and he has no items to boost his states like that.

So yeah, seems really strange.
Portochelo Sep 29, 2018 @ 3:20pm 
I also realized about this and I chose Hedwirg as my character for that reason, although I hate his stupid face on the portrait.
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Date Posted: Sep 26, 2018 @ 7:47am
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