Pathfinder: Kingmaker

Pathfinder: Kingmaker

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Isisius Sep 26, 2018 @ 6:18am
Im a bard, what do i do with Linzi?
It feels like 2 bards in a party isnt a good idea.
Should i multiclass her into something else?
Im a bit confused about the multiclass system (i knew enough about dnd 4e to multiclass in that, but dont know enough about these classes).
And since you cant respec characters later (as far as ive read) i dont wanna screw her up by multiclassing wrong.
Any suggestions?
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Cain Sep 26, 2018 @ 6:22am 
You could level her a a sorceress... or just leave here in camp. There are 11 premade companions in the game, and you can make customs too.
Isisius Sep 26, 2018 @ 7:35am 
Originally posted by Cain:
You could level her a a sorceress... or just leave here in camp. There are 11 premade companions in the game, and you can make customs too.
I guess so far ive enjoyed her as a character.
Maybe i will start levelling her as a sorcerer, they seem to be charisma based as well.
Isisius Sep 26, 2018 @ 7:46am 
Anyone have any thoughts on taking fighter levels with her and making her an archer?
xkuripuri Sep 26, 2018 @ 7:52am 
Originally posted by Isisius:
Anyone have any thoughts on taking fighter levels with her and making her an archer?

It probably won't be the best idea, if only because her starting STR is already pretty low, and you'd have to pump her STR up to make bows stronger. If you wanted to benefit from her CHA, I suppose dipping into Sorcerer might not be awful?

I don't know anything about Pathfinder though, so.
Shadowkire Sep 26, 2018 @ 8:06am 
Multiclassing her into Sorcerer is a good and easy choice: when she levels up pick sorcerer. You will want to remove her armor because sorcerer spells are subject to the Arcane Spell Failure value of armors(though leather is only 10% chance).

But don't just do it because you are already a bard, with both your characters as bards your party will never be without Inspire Courage, have a good amount of healing, a high-skill character in most skills, and a decent selection of buffs/heals/debuffs.
Isisius Sep 26, 2018 @ 8:31am 
I thought that longbows were DEX based not STR based, so i figured if she was part bard and part archer(warrior) she could maybe get buffing spells to buff herself and shoot things with a longbow.

I guess I just tend to hate the idea of having two of the one class in my party in any of these kinds of games. For variety as much as anything else.
I would have thought double bard in my party might have had me lacking a bit of damage, since their spells seem to do no serious damage.
BeelzeBob Sep 26, 2018 @ 8:33am 
Go a little evil to start. She'll then ditch you for the psychotic narcisist lol.
Zerathule Sep 26, 2018 @ 8:35am 
Originally posted by Isisius:
I thought that longbows were DEX based not STR based, so i figured if she was part bard and part archer(warrior) she could maybe get buffing spells to buff herself and shoot things with a longbow.

I guess I just tend to hate the idea of having two of the one class in my party in any of these kinds of games. For variety as much as anything else.
I would have thought double bard in my party might have had me lacking a bit of damage, since their spells seem to do no serious damage.
She has crappy str, so while she'll hit with her bow, she won't do damage.
Multiclass to sorcerer is a BAD idea, you'd be better off with another character.
Bard is really the class where you don't want two of them. It's a great class, one of my favourites, but you should go single class bard, and take someone else.
Linzi is actually amongst the early character not to suck too much ... but i'd rather have a good bard build than her.
Steven Brattac Sep 26, 2018 @ 9:14am 
Originally posted by Zerathule:
Originally posted by Isisius:
I thought that longbows were DEX based not STR based, so i figured if she was part bard and part archer(warrior) she could maybe get buffing spells to buff herself and shoot things with a longbow.

I guess I just tend to hate the idea of having two of the one class in my party in any of these kinds of games. For variety as much as anything else.
I would have thought double bard in my party might have had me lacking a bit of damage, since their spells seem to do no serious damage.
She has crappy str, so while she'll hit with her bow, she won't do damage.
Multiclass to sorcerer is a BAD idea, you'd be better off with another character.
Bard is really the class where you don't want two of them. It's a great class, one of my favourites, but you should go single class bard, and take someone else.
Linzi is actually amongst the early character not to suck too much ... but i'd rather have a good bard build than her.
linzi is pretty good at charisma checks and talks with npc i did keep here and made here a different class.
Astareal Sep 26, 2018 @ 11:27am 
Did you choose a default bard? Two of the 3 archetypes (Thundercaller and Archeologist) allow you to do things with your bardsong that a)either linzi can't do or b) stack with Linzi's song as well.
Brybry Sep 26, 2018 @ 11:41am 
It's an objectively poor solution, but I'm going 1 Bard+ 6 Figther -> Dragon Disciple on the little halfling. She'll be a subpar archer for a bit, and a rather solid 2 weapon fighter later
Isisius Sep 26, 2018 @ 3:54pm 
Originally posted by -Silver the Dragon-:
Originally posted by Zerathule:
She has crappy str, so while she'll hit with her bow, she won't do damage.
Multiclass to sorcerer is a BAD idea, you'd be better off with another character.
Bard is really the class where you don't want two of them. It's a great class, one of my favourites, but you should go single class bard, and take someone else.
Linzi is actually amongst the early character not to suck too much ... but i'd rather have a good bard build than her.
linzi is pretty good at charisma checks and talks with npc i did keep here and made here a different class.

So ive built my character as a "Face of the party" character, so i dont really need her to do it.

Hmmm maybe i could restart and pick a different bard archetype. As long as i can go heavy on the intel and charisma im happy. That way at least he abilities would stack.
Isisius Sep 26, 2018 @ 3:55pm 
Unless people have other suggestions for a character who can get away with low str, low con, high cha, high int, lots of skills.
eRe4s3r Sep 27, 2018 @ 2:53am 
Multi-class linzi as a rogue make sure to finesse (ie, dex for attack damage) the weapon line you want and give her the dex belt. Pushing her to 18 dex or +4 on all damage rolls and tada, you have suddenly a working character. You only take bard levels for healing and inspirational songs which you can maintain while stealthing by the way, without breaking stealth, don't ask how that works but it works ;) Attributes you wanna pick on level up are 100% DEX (this gets her to 20 dex easily)

Upsides, you get bard abilities and good stealth in 1 package, including sneak attacks which is a huge bonus to her.

Downsides, you miss out on all the "cool" bard spells.

Mega downside, you miss out on all the cool level 20 rogue skills.

Anyhow, that's my line of built for her.
Last edited by eRe4s3r; Sep 27, 2018 @ 2:54am
starkmaddness Sep 27, 2018 @ 2:57am 
Yea, sneak attack is a good choice to compensate for the low strength and works for melee and ranged.

Last edited by starkmaddness; Sep 27, 2018 @ 3:03am
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