Spell Focus: Universalist?!

[PoohPus]

Does the Spell Focus: Universalist feat give it's bonus to all spells? If not, to what does it confer it's bonus?

Is there for instance universalist-spells that the feat applies to?

[Meralie]

Thats a very good question ...:/

[The Infinity Sock]

I would like to know this too

[IEatCereal]

Bumping this. Does it increase the DC for saving throws for all spells?

[Fagotin]

does anybody know?

[AzureTheGamerKobold]

no there are a handful of spells are considered universal, like detect magic aren't very common i assume they give the bonus to that--- if it did to every school would make that feat broken as all heck

[PoohPus]

Originally posted by AzureTheGamerKobold:

no there are a handful of spells are considered universal, like detect magic aren't very common i assume they give the bonus to that--- if it did to every school would make that feat broken as all heck

Detect magic isn't a spell in Kingmaker CRPG. It's a class-ability. I have yet to find a universal spell.

[Ghost]

Originally posted by PoohPuss:

Originally posted by AzureTheGamerKobold:

no there are a handful of spells are considered universal, like detect magic aren't very common i assume they give the bonus to that--- if it did to every school would make that feat broken as all heck

Detect magic isn't a spell in Kingmaker CRPG. It's a class-ability. I have yet to find a universal spell.

maybe this feat boosts the DC on Universalist Metamagic ability-enhanced spells?

haven't tested

[MintBerryCrunch]

There are very few universal spells. It just boosts the DC of those spells by one. Not a good feat to take doesn't do to much. Better to take a focus in a school of spells you use often.

[PoohPus]

Originally posted by Creamy:

Originally posted by PoohPuss:

Detect magic isn't a spell in Kingmaker CRPG. It's a class-ability. I have yet to find a universal spell.

maybe this feat boosts the DC on Universalist Metamagic ability-enhanced spells?

haven't tested

If nothing else this is the best speculation I've seen so far. It would make sense, and also make it fairly useful. Wonder if it would then stack with the other Spell Foci.

[Schutzengel]

bump until we know, either its worthless or OP

[mreed2]

I looked it up -- https://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/core-classes/wizard/arcane-schools/paizo-arcane-schools/classic-arcane-schools/universalist/

That's the school that you pick if you don't want to pick a school -- in 3.5 edition, it would be the same as "No specalist school". The main upside is no opposition school, but there are a few bonuses.

[Selvokaz]

more universal spells may become available in the future.

[Procrastinating Gamer]

Spell Focus Universalist only applies to spells of the Universal School. There are basically bugger-all Universal spells even in tabletop Pathfinder with all of its supplements and additional sourcebooks (at least going by stuff Paizo themselves have put out, third-party stuff isn't going to be in Kingmaker and there's a bloody ocean of third-party spells out there for the game).

Here is the entire list with the spell's level also mentioned:

• Arcane Mark (Cantrip) - Not in this game
  
• Prestidigitation (Cantrip) - Not in this game
  
• Permanency (5th Level Spell) - Not in this game
  
• Limited Wish (7th Level Spell) - Not in this game
  
• Wish (9th Level Spell) - Not in this game

I should point out that I'm basing whether the last three of those are in the game or not on an incomplete wiki for the video game so I could be wrong, but all three are spells that seem very difficult to translate into a video game (I know their 3.5 counterparts never made it into the Neverwinter Nights games at least).

So, unless Owlcat shifted some spells into the Universal School and out of the ones they have on tabletop, Spell Focus: Universalist is absolutely useless.

[mreed2]

Originally posted by Shadow88:

Spell Focus Universalist only applies to spells of the Universal School. There are basically bugger-all Universal spells even in tabletop Pathfinder with all of its supplements and additional sourcebooks (at least going by stuff Paizo themselves have put out, third-party stuff isn't going to be in Kingmaker and there's a bloody ocean of third-party spells out there for the game).

Here is the entire list with the spell's level also mentioned:

• Arcane Mark (Cantrip) - Not in this game
  
• Prestidigitation (Cantrip) - Not in this game
  
• Permanency (5th Level Spell) - Not in this game
  
• Limited Wish (7th Level Spell) - Not in this game
  
• Wish (9th Level Spell) - Not in this game

I should point out that I'm basing whether the last three of those are in the game or not on an incomplete wiki for the video game so I could be wrong, but all three are spells that seem very difficult to translate into a video game (I know their 3.5 counterparts never made it into the Neverwinter Nights games at least).

So, unless Owlcat shifted some spells into the Universal School and out of the ones they have on tabletop, Spell Focus: Universalist is absolutely useless.

This was what I expected myself, based on my 3.5 edition D&D experience. However, if you'll follow the link in my prior message, you'll see that this isn't what the Universalist "specality" is at all. Even if you selected this "specality" you wouldn't get any bonus spell slots, nor would you get any bonus when using Universalist spells. Instead, you get other minor benefits, plus the advantage of being able to cast all spells.

"Universalist" = "No specality school" in 3.5 edition.

[mreed2]

Ooops, sorry, I misread the original post.

Yes, spell focus: universalist is totally useless.