What are the most powerful spells in the game?

[Amigo]

I remember a few powerful spells from BG 2 - wail of the banshee, petrification, finger of death, disintegration, power word kill. Are there saving throws vs death?

[Grifta]

The first trailer has Wail of the Banshee in it. Aaaand, here is a list from the video that they just release. Pause it here at 1:08

https://youtu.be/JqTJkakYsMY?t=1m8s

[Sexorcista]

No timestop? my wizard is sad

[Grifta]

That was still later Beta footage, so a tiny chance that it was added.

[Amigo]

So wail of the banshee is in? Cool. How does it work? Saving throw vs death?

[Grifta]

Apparently it was altered to just massive... massive... damage. Like mass disintegrate. d6 hit point classes have to save or die, and d8 have a good chance of save or die.

Banshee - See 0:45
https://youtu.be/N9iD9Y5rBIA?t=45s

[lordgizka]

I'm not seeing Wish in the spell list. If BG2 managed to implement it, so can this game. Also, I want my +5 inherent bonuses on everything.

[Stalindlrp]

@grifta that is actually how cry is in the pathfinder table top. pathfinder was really light on save or die spells.

[hellishlord]

While Pathfinder does have save-or-die spells, they're not the instant type. Suffocation and mass suffocation have taken finger/wail's places, and they work on a duration (Fort save or get staggered, then Fort save or drop to 0 hp, then Fort save or die)

[Zerathule]

Dominate Monster is better than a save or die spell, you take someone out, and you get an additional ally.
Sleep, level 1 spell is actually a death spell. When you're a sleep on a battlefield, you're as good as dead.

[Grifta]

Originally posted by Stalindlrp:

@grifta that is actually how cry is in the pathfinder table top. pathfinder was really light on save or die spells.

Woops, thanks for the correction. Someone weeks back said that it had changed, but I guess that they meant "changed from 3.5". And I've used level 9s maybe twice in my 10 years of pathfinder :P

[Zerathule]

Originally posted by Grifta:

Apparently it was altered to just massive... massive... damage. Like mass disintegrate. d6 hit point classes have to save or die, and d8 have a good chance of save or die.

Banshee - See 0:45
https://youtu.be/N9iD9Y5rBIA?t=45s

It's actually 10 damage per caster level, fortitude saves negates ... pretty underwhelming.

Mass suffocation is absolutetly terrifying ...
At level 20 you basically target 10 creatures for 20 rounds.
You have to save every round. That's 20 saves. As long as you save, you're staggered (that means slowed). As soon as you fail your first save you're unconscious. If you then fail a second save you're dying (-1 hp). Then you're dead if you fail your third save ...
Cast it, then wait untill they're all dead.
Only creatures that don't breathe are immune to that ...
Now, is it in game ? :) (if it is, i think spell focus necromancy is going to be a priority ^^)

[thainen]

We have death clutch, it's still save or die.

[Amigo]

I googled stuff. Here's what I found http://aonprd.com/Spells.aspx?Class=Wizard

9th-Level
PFS Legal Absorb Rune IIIM: As absorb rune I, but affecting a rune up to 8th level
PFS Legal Aroden's SpellbaneFY: Create an area to completely block out spells of your choosing.
AscensionMY: Imbue creatures with mythic power.
PFS Legal Astral ProjectionM: Projects you and companions onto Astral Plane.
PFS Legal Bilocation: Exist in two places at once.
Canopic ConversionFM: Eviscerate a target, creating an advanced mummy from its life essence.
PFS Legal Clashing Rocks: 20d6 damage to target creature.
PFS Legal Create Demiplane, GreaterF: As create demiplane, but larger and with more planar traits.
PFS Legal Crushing Hand: Large hand provides cover, pushes, or crushes your foes.
Curse of Fell SeasonsF: Curse an area's weather
PFS Legal Cursed EarthM: Plants die, living creatures catch diseases, or dead creatures rise as zombies.
PFS Legal Dominate Monster: As dominate person, but any creature.
Echean's Excellent EnclosureM: Create a combination spherical wall of force and antimagic field.
PFS Legal Energy Drain: Subject gains 2d4 negative levels.
PFS Legal Etherealness: Travel to Ethereal Plane with companions.
PFS Legal Fey Form IV: Assume the form of a powerful fey creature
PFS Legal Fiery Body: You gain various fire-related powers.
PFS Legal ForesightY: “Sixth sense” warns of impending danger.
PFS Legal Freedom: Releases creature from imprisonment.
PFS Legal Gate: Connects two planes for travel or summoning.
PFS Legal Heroic Invocation: Grants a number of creatures bonuses on attacks and damage, temporary hit points, and immunity to fear and charm effects.
PFS Legal Hold Monster, Mass: As hold monster, but all within 30 ft.
PFS Legal Icy Prison, Mass: As icy prison, but it affects 1 creature/level.
PFS Legal Impenetrable VeilM: Target can use stealth to hide from blindsight and blindsense as well as divination magic
PFS Legal Imprisonment: Entombs subject beneath the earth.
PFS Legal Interplanetary Teleport: Teleport to another planet.
PFS Legal Last Azlanti's Defending Sword, MassF: As Aroden’s defending sword, but with multiple swords
PFS Legal Lost LocaleR: As lost passage, except covering a much larger area.
PFS Legal Mage's DisjunctionY: Dispels magic, disenchants magic items.
PFS Legal Massacre: Slaughter creatures in a line
Maze of Madness and SufferingM: Send a target into a dangerous extradimensional maze.
PFS Legal Meteor SwarmY: Four exploding spheres each deal 6d6 fire damage.
PFS Legal Mind Blank, Communal: As mind blank, but you may divide the duration among creatures touched.
PFS Legal Overwhelming Presence: Creatures bow before you as if you were divine.
PFS Legal Parasitic SoulF: Force a trapped soul into a new body.
PFS Legal Power Word KillY: Kills one creature with 100 hp or less.
PFS Legal Prismatic SphereY: As prismatic wall, but surrounds on all sides.
PFS Legal RefugeM: Alters item to transport its possessor to you.
PFS Legal Resplendent MansionF: Conjure an opulent mansion several stories tall.
PFS Legal Ride the Lightning: Transform into electricity.
Rune of JandelayM: Create a potent rune that evokes the mighty Oliphant of Jandelay, warding the area against chaos and destruction.
PFS Legal Salvage: Pull together the remains of a shipwreck and reform it into a working vessel.
PFS Legal Scourge of the Horsemen: Blast an area with soul-rending energy, dealing 1d4 negative levels and 1d6 acid/level.
Scribe's BindingF: Turn a creature into a biography of their life.
PFS Legal Shades: As shadow conjuration, but up to 8th level and 80% real.
PFS Legal Shadow Transmutation, Greater: As shadow transmutation, but it mimics greater polymorph instead of polymorph.
PFS Legal ShapechangeF: Transforms you into certain creatures, and you can change forms once per round.
PFS Legal Soul Bind: Traps newly dead soul to prevent resurrection.
Spawn CallingRY: Call the Spawn of Rovagug.
PFS Legal Suffocation, Mass: One creature/level suffocates to death.
PFS Legal Summon Derghodaemon: Summon a derghodaemon.
Summon Greater Demon: As summon monster, except to summon a coloxus, omox demon, or 1d3 kalavakus demons.
PFS Legal Summon Monster 9: Summons extraplanar creature to fight for you.
PFS Legal Summon Thanadaemon: Summon a thanadaemon.
PFS Legal Symbol of StrifeM: Triggered rune makes creatures attack.
PFS Legal Symbol of VulnerabilityM: Triggered rune gives penalties.
PFS Legal Teleportation CircleM: Teleports creatures inside circle.
PFS Legal Time StopY: You act freely for 1d4+1 rounds.
PFS Legal Transmute Blood To AcidM: Target takes acid damage each round, and its attackers take acid damage.
PFS Legal Transmute Golem: Turn one type of golem into another.
PFS Legal TsunamiY: Huge wave damages and sweeps up all in its path.
PFS Legal Wail of the Banshee: Deals 10 damage/level to 1 creature/level.
PFS Legal Wall of SuppressionM: Creates wall that disables magic.
PFS Legal Weird: As phantasmal killer, but affects all within 30 ft.
PFS Legal Winds of Vengeance: Gives you the ability to fly and attack with wind.
PFS Legal WishMY: As limited wish, but with fewer limits.
PFS Legal Wooden Phalanx: Creates 1d4+2 temporary wood golems to fight for you.
PFS Legal World Wave: Earth moves you across distances.
Yellow SignMR: Use this symbol to subject all who view it to the will of Hastur.

Massacre sounds lovely.

[thainen]

On level 9 we have Clashing Rocks, Dominate Monster, Elemental Swarm, Energy Drain, Fiery Body, Heroic Invocation, Mind Blank, Polar Midnight, Power Word Kill, Summon Elder Worm, Summon Monster IX, Tsunami, Wail of the Banshee and Weird, plus a new spell designed by our backer called Secrets of Suramgamin.

[Zerathule]

That's for all spell lists ? (Wiz/sorc, Druid and Cleric ?)
I guess i know the answer as polar midnight is a druid/cleric spell
No Mass heal for exemple ? :'(