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Changing Your Appearance
Lets say you play as a dragon disciple well it change your appearance or will it be like neverwinter nights one and you just get some wings and thats it here is two example of half-dragon

This is how i would like a half-dragon to be
https://i.pinimg.com/736x/55/c1/73/55c173658cf996f86eacc910e1dd4225.jpg
This is neverwinter nights one half-dragon
https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/nwn2/images/d/d7/DMG35_PG184_WEB.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20051222200351
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Selvokaz Sep 19, 2018 @ 10:59am 
none of the physical alterations a DD gains are permenant, they are conditional abilities you can choose to turn on and off based on whether or not you've done a particular thing. The claws can be turned on and when you do you'll also gain a bite attack, the wings can be turned on and off because they are supernatural.
Selvokaz Sep 19, 2018 @ 11:01am 
im afraid your first request will not happen, your claws can be turned on and they only last 1 round per sorcerer level you have, the bite attack will appear when the claws do, and disappear when they do. Wings however can be left on or turned off. It will likely be like the 2nd image over all.
Last edited by Selvokaz; Sep 19, 2018 @ 11:02am
The Infinity Sock Sep 19, 2018 @ 11:03am 
Originally posted by Lettus:
none of the physical alterations a DD gains are permenant, they are conditional abilities you can choose to turn on and off based on whether or not you've done a particular thing. The claws can be turned on and when you do you'll also gain a bite attack, the wings can be turned on and off because they are supernatural.
Ok thanks for that i never really liked the neverwinter nights one half-dragon if you are going to be a half-dragon you would think you well get more than just wings
The Infinity Sock Sep 19, 2018 @ 11:04am 
Originally posted by Lettus:
im afraid your first request will not happen, your claws can be turned on and they only last 1 round per sorcerer level you have, the bite attack will appear when the claws do, and disappear when they do. Wings however can be left on or turned off. It will likely be like the 2nd image over all.
:(
Jarges Sep 19, 2018 @ 12:50pm 
Originally posted by Iguanas & Hermit Crabs:
This is how i would like a half-dragon to be
https://i.pinimg.com/736x/55/c1/73/55c173658cf996f86eacc910e1dd4225.jpg
This is neverwinter nights one half-dragon
https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/nwn2/images/d/d7/DMG35_PG184_WEB.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20051222200351
You mistake Dragonborn and dragon disciple. Thats two different things.
The Infinity Sock Sep 19, 2018 @ 12:53pm 
Originally posted by Jarges:
Originally posted by Iguanas & Hermit Crabs:
This is how i would like a half-dragon to be
https://i.pinimg.com/736x/55/c1/73/55c173658cf996f86eacc910e1dd4225.jpg
This is neverwinter nights one half-dragon
https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/nwn2/images/d/d7/DMG35_PG184_WEB.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20051222200351
You mistake Dragonborn and dragon disciple. Thats two different things.
But don't you turn into a half-dragon if you have the dragon disciple?
Jarges Sep 19, 2018 @ 12:56pm 
Originally posted by Iguanas & Hermit Crabs:
Originally posted by Jarges:
You mistake Dragonborn and dragon disciple. Thats two different things.
But don't you turn into a half-dragon if you have the dragon disciple?
No. http://nwn.wikia.com/wiki/Red_dragon_disciple
The Infinity Sock Sep 19, 2018 @ 1:13pm 
Originally posted by Jarges:
Originally posted by Iguanas & Hermit Crabs:
But don't you turn into a half-dragon if you have the dragon disciple?
No. http://nwn.wikia.com/wiki/Red_dragon_disciple
That just sent my build out the window :(
Balkoth Sep 19, 2018 @ 1:47pm 
Keep in mind, the PnP Dragon Disciple let's you transform into a dragon. So there's that.
The Infinity Sock Sep 19, 2018 @ 2:04pm 
Originally posted by Balkoth:
Keep in mind, the PnP Dragon Disciple let's you transform into a dragon. So there's that.
But you can do that as a level 9 spell lucky for me i have another build my pure sorcerer bloodline arcana
Feergon Sep 19, 2018 @ 2:43pm 
Originally posted by Jarges:
Originally posted by Iguanas & Hermit Crabs:
But don't you turn into a half-dragon if you have the dragon disciple?
No. http://nwn.wikia.com/wiki/Red_dragon_disciple
Emmm.....
Table in the article says, that at 10 level dragon disciple becomes half-dragon.
The Infinity Sock Sep 19, 2018 @ 2:52pm 
Originally posted by Feergon:
Originally posted by Jarges:
No. http://nwn.wikia.com/wiki/Red_dragon_disciple
Emmm.....
Table in the article says, that at 10 level dragon disciple becomes half-dragon.
That was what i was thinking so if you become a half-dragon as a dragon disciple in logic that should make you a half-dragon or is it just me?
BloodDragon Sep 19, 2018 @ 2:55pm 
That link is for Neverwinter Nights not Pathfinder.
Anyway there are no visuals in the game for transformations like this. The different bloodlines like serpentine or undead also have abilities in whch they change their form but agian it's not visually shown ingame.
The reason for this is because it would mean makeing new animations for all armors and races.
It's simply too much effort for rsomething only a few will ever do.
Last edited by BloodDragon; Sep 19, 2018 @ 3:13pm
The Infinity Sock Sep 19, 2018 @ 3:09pm 
Originally posted by dodo00d:
That link is for Neverwinter Nights not Pathfinder.
Anyway there are no visuals in the game for transformations like this. The different bloodlines like serpentine or undead also have abilities in whch they change their form but agian it's not visually shown ingame.
The reason for this is because it woulld mean makeing new animation for all armors and races.
It's simply too much effort fo rsomething only a few will ever do.
makes sense
Balkoth Sep 19, 2018 @ 3:19pm 
Originally posted by Feergon:
Originally posted by Jarges:
No. http://nwn.wikia.com/wiki/Red_dragon_disciple
Emmm.....
Table in the article says, that at 10 level dragon disciple becomes half-dragon.

The Pathfinder version of the prestige class is a little different than Neverwinter Nights. You can read more about it here:

https://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/prestige-classes/core-rulebook/dragon-disciple/

Originally posted by Iguanas & Hermit Crabs:
Originally posted by Balkoth:
Keep in mind, the PnP Dragon Disciple let's you transform into a dragon. So there's that.
But you can do that as a level 9 spell lucky for me i have another build my pure sorcerer bloodline arcana

Keep in mind that Form of the Dragon, at least in the Pen and Paper game, is different than in 3.5. It doesn't replace your stats, but rather add onto them.

https://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic/all-spells/f/form-of-the-dragon-i/

So a Dragon Disciple is going to be a lot more physicially powerful than a pure caster due to the stat bonuses it gets as well as the medium BAB progression. This translates to a higher hit-chance as well as higher damage.

That being said, a pure caster is still more powerful overall anyhow. But it's something to keep in mind if you say, go Barbarian 4/Bard 1/Dragon Disciple 10/Eldritch Knight 5. Your transformations will be more powerful but obviously your spellcasting will be lackluster.
Last edited by Balkoth; Sep 19, 2018 @ 3:26pm
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Date Posted: Sep 19, 2018 @ 10:56am
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