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Lander Lebeda
Am I imagining it or is Lander a terrible regent? It seems to me he only wants to make silly decisions that have negative effects on the barony. Like not fix roads to annoy other rulers, take bribes from bandits, pocket a random cow for no reason, etc. I picked him as he's chaotic and in an attempt to remain neutral, not to have a liability that's similar to Nok Nok only stuck up and not cute xD
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Ah thx for that info, i was curious if i should have picked him cause i was playing neutral good, but I can see the default choice was better :P
NegativeZero Oct 6, 2018 @ 4:02pm 
Seems fine to me. There was a good reason for pretending to fix the roads and not actually doing so. I heard the half-orc guy fails most of his tasks. I wouldn't be surprised if he backstabs me at some point in the future, but I wouldn't be surprised of that from any of the 3 reagents.
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Quacksalber Oct 6, 2018 @ 4:11pm 
If you read the letter you get with that event, it seems to me that fixing the roads would probably give you some kind of kingdom bonus as it does make sense to have decent roads, but I haven't tried it. Lander doesn't fail at missions, he just gives advice I don't agree with and if you don't do what they want, they quit, so I tend to go along with his silliness most of the time. Also, I've had Regongar as a General and he was fine.
NegativeZero Oct 6, 2018 @ 4:17pm 
Originally posted by uta:
If you read the letter you get with that event, it seems to me that fixing the roads would probably give you some kind of kingdom bonus as it does make sense to have decent roads, but I haven't tried it. Lander doesn't fail at missions, he just gives advice I don't agree with and if you don't do what they want, they quit, so I tend to go along with his silliness most of the time. Also, I've had Regongar as a General and he was fine.

half-orc reagent, not general.
Quacksalber Oct 6, 2018 @ 4:24pm 
You mean the one you can pick at the same time as Lander? I'd read he can only be general, and the old lady councillor. Going on hearsay though as I've only had Lander.
EthanT Oct 6, 2018 @ 9:59pm 
I had the half orc Jamandi gives you as a general.
Quacksalber Oct 7, 2018 @ 3:22am 
Originally posted by EthanT:
I had the half orc Jamandi gives you as a general.
What's he like?
Ventus Oct 7, 2018 @ 3:26am 
Originally posted by Goebbel Race Program:
Ah thx for that info, i was curious if i should have picked him cause i was playing neutral good, but I can see the default choice was better :P

Lander is probably the worth of the three choices. His impact on kingdom management late game is masive.

He will vitrually invalidate two of your advisors later on when he turns on you. His kingdom debuff is 'Regent and Grand Diplomat have to roll twice for everything they do, and take the lower number'. When events start getting DCs in the 30s and 40, this means you need to rolls over 14 to succeed at most things.
Last edited by Ventus; Oct 7, 2018 @ 3:26am
Quacksalber Oct 7, 2018 @ 3:46am 
Originally posted by Ventus:
Originally posted by Goebbel Race Program:
Lander is probably the worth of the three choices. His impact on kingdom management late game is masive.

He will vitrually invalidate two of your advisors later on when he turns on you. His kingdom debuff is 'Regent and Grand Diplomat have to roll twice for everything they do, and take the lower number'. When events start getting DCs in the 30s and 40, this means you need to rolls over 14 to succeed at most things.
Holy crap! When does this happen? Really regretting having picked him *a second time* although I knew he sucks, thinking it was still a better option than using Lawful advisors for a Chaotic kingdom. Will it stil happen if I remove him as advisor? xD
Last edited by Quacksalber; Oct 7, 2018 @ 3:47am
Originally posted by Ventus:
Originally posted by Goebbel Race Program:
Ah thx for that info, i was curious if i should have picked him cause i was playing neutral good, but I can see the default choice was better :P

Lander is probably the worth of the three choices. His impact on kingdom management late game is masive.

He will vitrually invalidate two of your advisors later on when he turns on you. His kingdom debuff is 'Regent and Grand Diplomat have to roll twice for everything they do, and take the lower number'. When events start getting DCs in the 30s and 40, this means you need to rolls over 14 to succeed at most things.
ah thats good to know :) thx
Solaius Oct 7, 2018 @ 4:28am 
The half-orc Kassil I think is his name has worked out very well for me. In my experience he hasn't failed much at all.
Thane_Ragnar Oct 7, 2018 @ 5:09am 
Best for me is the old Lady, she might save the day later on when one of your Advisors thinks he need to go bonkers. And she is just straight forward Lawful Neutral I think.
Quacksalber Oct 7, 2018 @ 5:17am 
Originally posted by Lestrade:
Best for me is the old Lady, she might save the day later on when one of your Advisors thinks he need to go bonkers. And she is just straight forward Lawful Neutral I think.
Yup afaik it's Lander: chaotic evil
Old lady: Lawful neutral
Orc: Lawful good.

In retrospect, I reckon the best way to pick is to go on good/neutral/evil as opposed to lawful/neutral/chaotic, meaning Lander might be a good option if your character is evil. However, there's no way of knowing this when you actually pick and I'm guessing lots of people go for Lander as he seems "neutral" and thus less likely to cause animosity from one of the two parties at the ceremony.

Idk about Yaethal as an advisor, but I never had a problem with Regongar making dodgy suggestions on account of being classed as evil, at least not that I recall.
Valandryl Oct 7, 2018 @ 5:40am 
Lander is my greatest regret on this game. All he wants to do is create chaos. He always wants to annoy everybody, always goes for the choices that will annoy your neighbours, and he's an arrogant as*****e.
Jackdaw Mask Oct 7, 2018 @ 5:43am 
I get feeling that he is REALLY obvious traitor :p
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