Pathfinder soundtrack triggering 3rd Party copyright claims on youtube

[Twitch.tv/KAEN_SG]

Just had all my livestreams on youtube flagged by this copyright claim.
All 65 hours of my content....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BuSLxJhfX_o
Video title: Pathfinder: Kingmaker - Challenging Difficulty! Day 1
Copyrighted content: PF MAIN THEME-14539
Claimed by: AdRev for a 3rd Party

Can a dev please clarify if content creators have the right to produce content for the game?


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cheers,
Kaen

[Karui_Kage]

I've taken to turning down/off music whenever doing youtube streams - too often it results in a copyright claim. Not specific to Pathfinder, just in general.

[Twitch.tv/KAEN_SG]

Karui_Kage님이 먼저 게시:

I've taken to turning down/off music whenever doing youtube streams - too often it results in a copyright claim. Not specific to Pathfinder, just in general.

I've streamed tons of games... I have over 1000 hours of content on youtube, and the only time I was even flagged for this was Fallout 4... which uses actual old 60s music that is still being managed by agencies.

[space is cool]

Twitch.tv/KAEN_SG님이 먼저 게시:

Karui_Kage님이 먼저 게시:

I've taken to turning down/off music whenever doing youtube streams - too often it results in a copyright claim. Not specific to Pathfinder, just in general.

I've streamed tons of games... I have over 1000 hours of content on youtube, and the only time I was even flagged for this was Fallout 4... which uses actual old 60s music that is still being managed by agencies.

You can turn down the music volume completely in the options so you can avoid this for now

[Ventus]

Bump for this.

Interesting.

While the youtube claiming system is the most abused thing since the punching bag, this situation is curious and i'd be interested in what this means.

[Twitch.tv/KAEN_SG]

rrichard2님이 먼저 게시:

Twitch.tv/KAEN_SG님이 먼저 게시:

I've streamed tons of games... I have over 1000 hours of content on youtube, and the only time I was even flagged for this was Fallout 4... which uses actual old 60s music that is still being managed by agencies.

You can turn down the music volume completely in the options so you can avoid this for now

I wonder if they are using this to silence critics of the game? I've had tons of bugs pop up on my stream... but I don't think my frustration is unreasonable.

[raubrey]

This has nothing to do with the company here. Sometimes it's overzealous lawyer robots and other times it's artists protecting their work, legitimately. I took one line from a movie (no monetization) and got flagged. I fought it and won -- except in Poland (laugh).

If you're monetizing ads though you need to be careful. Also you don't want to fight them without good cause. But if you do know it's wrong then you can file for reconsideration. Google "Claimed by: AdRev for a 3rd Party" if you want to know more...I am not able to atm. Sounds suspect to me. Suspect = 3rd Party greed, not the artist and not this company.

[space is cool]

Twitch.tv/KAEN_SG님이 먼저 게시:

rrichard2님이 먼저 게시:

You can turn down the music volume completely in the options so you can avoid this for now

I wonder if they are using this to silence critics of the game? I've had tons of bugs pop up on my stream... but I don't think my frustration is unreasonable.

You got copyright strikes not devs are coming after your stream for bugs strike lol

[Moos]

That happened to me for other games before. Note that when a game company buys the right to use music in their game that doesn't mean that the copyright holder automatically grants everyone the right to use the music in their videos or streams. Pay attention to who is holding copyright of the ingame music and check if you are allowed to use it for monetization on youtube next time, otherwise risk having your videos demonetized. You can chose to turn off the music if you are unsure and use your own / copyright free music.

[Twitch.tv/KAEN_SG]

raubrey님이 먼저 게시:

This has nothing to do with the company here. Sometimes it's overzealous lawyer robots and other times it's artists protecting their work. I took one line from a movie (no monetization) and got flagged. I fought it and won -- except in Poland (laugh).

If you're monetizing ads though you need to be careful. Also you don't want to fight them without good cause. But if you do know it's wrong then you can file for reconsideration. Google "Claimed by: AdRev for a 3rd Party" if you want to know more...I am not able to atm. Sounds suspect to me.

Yeah can't contest these until you reach 5000 views on each video and even after that.. the game developer has to issue a communique indicating that their game is OK to stream/make content about.

By the time it's valid to contest, I might have gotten tired and moved on.

[Aytum]

Twitch.tv/KAEN_SG님이 먼저 게시:

rrichard2님이 먼저 게시:

You can turn down the music volume completely in the options so you can avoid this for now

I wonder if they are using this to silence critics of the game? I've had tons of bugs pop up on my stream... but I don't think my frustration is unreasonable.

Don't come up with insane conspiracy theories about the devs. You seriously think they tracked down your tiny channel, actually watched the videos, then decided to flag them because of criticisms of the game?

[Ventus]

It's more of a concern that the content on youtube is being claimed (as in someone other than Owlcat is flagging Owlcat's content as theirs).

Probably bots abusing the system, like I guessed before, but I would still be interested in hearing what the resolution of the strikes are.

[Twitch.tv/KAEN_SG]

Aytum님이 먼저 게시:

Twitch.tv/KAEN_SG님이 먼저 게시:

I wonder if they are using this to silence critics of the game? I've had tons of bugs pop up on my stream... but I don't think my frustration is unreasonable.

Don't come up with insane conspiracy theories about the devs. You seriously think they tracked down your tiny channel, actually watched the videos, then decided to flag them because of criticisms of the game?

I posted this here in case the devs didn't know someone was making a claim on their soundtrack on youtube... because that means that their PR/marketing might start imploding from angry/upset youtubers and streamers getting their videos muted and/or their content stolen. My videos are basically forcefully monetized... but the money is going to whoever is making this copyright claims.

and if it was the devs themselves doing it .. and it was intentional... then it's time to light the molotovs? :)

[raubrey]

Twitch.tv/KAEN_SG님이 먼저 게시:

raubrey님이 먼저 게시:

This has nothing to do with the company here. Sometimes it's overzealous lawyer robots and other times it's artists protecting their work. I took one line from a movie (no monetization) and got flagged. I fought it and won -- except in Poland (laugh).

If you're monetizing ads though you need to be careful. Also you don't want to fight them without good cause. But if you do know it's wrong then you can file for reconsideration. Google "Claimed by: AdRev for a 3rd Party" if you want to know more...I am not able to atm. Sounds suspect to me.

Yeah can't contest these until you reach 5000 views on each video and even after that.. the game developer has to issue a communique indicating that their game is OK to stream/make content about.

By the time it's valid to contest, I might have gotten tired and moved on.

Bummer. I forgot a lot of the rules have changed in the last couple of years as I recall being put into a new category -- which I didn't care at the time but it looked like more red tape was added. Good luck in any case.

[djinnxy]

The laws on this changed like literally last week. Wonder if that has something to do with it? Also the music seemed pretty familiar as a d&d video game fan...

[space is cool]

I saw a post about someone saying that there was a stolen sound track from another game lol. but Im sure it wasn't stolen.