Pathfinder: Kingmaker

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Jenneigh Oct 5, 2018 @ 9:38am
Necro Build
Hello, maybe someone can help me with my character creation:
(Hope you can understand my „german „englisch )😂:

I would like to play a necromancer, but also likes to convince my people of my opinions. Since I make both good and bad decisions, I would not choose cleric or Inqusitor (since I find only goddess Urutogha interesting from the story).

Therefore the following question: Should I choose a wizard or a sorcerer (or which prestige class)? Rather a sorcerer because of the charisma value to convince others?
which attributes should I skill?
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Antinous Oct 5, 2018 @ 9:48am 
I personally made a Wizard for the Necromancy mastered school magic. (And I tried both a Sorcerer and a Wizard, and I find Wizards more fun actually, but it seems that most ppl prefer Sorcerers).
You can also make a Blight Druid with the Death Domain. (he can shape change into a beast, and with a feat, even cast all his spells while transformed). It might be an interesting char 'cause you could have access to Necromancy spells, AND some damaging nature/poisons/insects spells.

On my Wizard's necromancer, I have access from the lvl-1 to a big-aoe spell who affects undead and make them fear (but it does affect Jaethal, if she misses the will save).
Playing a Wizard over a Sorcerer gives more choices in spells that you can cast, but you may have to adapt your memorized spells while resting before a specific area. A Sorcerer doesn't have this issue, but I feel like I have more lvl-1+ spells available to cast with my Wizard than I had with my Sorcerer (so more fight where he'll just cast cantrips).
Jenneigh Oct 5, 2018 @ 10:04am 
Thanks
But what attributes should I increase as a magician then?
I also want to convince people. should I increase intelligance and charisma?
Or should I rather play warlock?
Antinous Oct 5, 2018 @ 10:08am 
(There's no Warlock class).
Sorcerer > Charisma* for more spells charges
Wizard > Intelligence for more spells charges (you can still put some points in CHA, but I personnally prefered to max Persuasion on another char rather than my MC). More you have Intelligence, more your character will get skills points to spend on level-up.
Last edited by Antinous; Oct 5, 2018 @ 10:24am
Jenneigh Oct 5, 2018 @ 10:16am 
Okay thanks
Sorry i mean sorcerer
FEZ. TF7 Oct 5, 2018 @ 10:23am 
The basic sorcerer with domain scales with charisma which also boosts persuasion so you can be a sweet talking imtimidating sorcerer, pick undead domain as the extra spells you get every other level are necromancy spells

You'll end up playing this class as mainly a debuffer- support role, with the occassional damage spell
Last edited by FEZ. TF7; Oct 5, 2018 @ 10:24am
Kyun Oct 5, 2018 @ 10:25am 
Hey,
i personally find only clerics are good necromancers, since summoning skeletons and undead are divine spells (so you have to be a cleric to use them as far as i know atleast). Also only divine casters get "x wound" spells.

If you really dont want to play a cleric i recommend sorcerer and select the undead familiy line (in the english version its near the bottom of the familiy lines). This gives you access to summoning skeletons at level 8, and turns you into an undead yourself at level 20, it also gives you lots of thematic abilities that would fit a lich/necro.
Since the sorcerer uses charisma it also helps with persuasion checks.
If you go human you can leave everything at 10, put 18 into charisma and take the human bonus thingy to get it to 20 (this makes your sorcerer spells more powerful, lets you cast them more often and helps with persuasion).
Put the rest in dexterity since lots of the necro school spells are touch/ranged touch and you need dex to be able to hit with them (for the spells that dont say "touch" in the description only cha counts). Maybe even lower your strength a bit since you dont need that as a caster.
Last edited by Kyun; Oct 5, 2018 @ 10:27am
Jenneigh Oct 5, 2018 @ 10:26am 
Okay i will think about it
thanks
Antinous Oct 5, 2018 @ 10:27am 
« Animate Dead » (summoning skelettons) is a spell that my Wizard necromancer have aswel.

Edit : And I think this spell was available on my Blight Druid with Death domain, I just can't check for sure because I wasn't interested with having a third character with this spell.
Last edited by Antinous; Oct 5, 2018 @ 10:30am
Kyun Oct 5, 2018 @ 10:28am 
Originally posted by Doomed To Lose:
« Animate Dead » (summoning skelettons) is a spell that my Wizard necromancer have aswel.

Thank you for clarifying, forget what i said about it then.
Antinous Oct 5, 2018 @ 10:31am 
We would really need the list of all lvl-1+ available spells with a Class (and with all Bloodline/Domains).
Carog the Fat Oct 5, 2018 @ 10:36am 
would multi class cleric Sorc work- going mystic thurge for lots and lots of spells and with charisma being a good stat for clerics as well it sounds good but I arent sure?
abysall blood line sorc give DR ot your summons
Last edited by Carog the Fat; Oct 5, 2018 @ 10:43am
Mortmal Oct 5, 2018 @ 10:50am 
Best is probably evil cleric channeling negative energy. There's not enough feats in the pc game to do a really good build although.Hopefully more will come as DLC.
Fell Mar 6, 2023 @ 7:43pm 
Originally posted by Antinous:
I personally made a Wizard for the Necromancy mastered school magic. (And I tried both a Sorcerer and a Wizard, and I find Wizards more fun actually, but it seems that most ppl prefer Sorcerers).
You can also make a Blight Druid with the Death Domain. (he can shape change into a beast, and with a feat, even cast all his spells while transformed). It might be an interesting char 'cause you could have access to Necromancy spells, AND some damaging nature/poisons/insects spells.

On my Wizard's necromancer, I have access from the lvl-1 to a big-aoe spell who affects undead and make them fear (but it does affect Jaethal, if she misses the will save).
Playing a Wizard over a Sorcerer gives more choices in spells that you can cast, but you may have to adapt your memorized spells while resting before a specific area. A Sorcerer doesn't have this issue, but I feel like I have more lvl-1+ spells available to cast with my Wizard than I had with my Sorcerer (so more fight where he'll just cast cantrips).


"You can also make a Blight Druid with the Death Domain." I came here to read traditional necro discussion because I always play a druid...so now I'm making this druid. Thank you. This sounds fun as hell.
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