Pathfinder: Kingmaker

Pathfinder: Kingmaker

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nshawmc Oct 4, 2018 @ 5:17pm
Where is the Warlock Class?
Does pathfinder just not have warlocks? Or is there some good choices that need to be made to be more like a warlock.

I guess in this game there are no short vs long rests so maybe that is why but said to not see my favorite class ever.
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Jimbo The Hutt Oct 4, 2018 @ 5:22pm 
Pathfinder don't have a true warlock class, even if they have a archetype for the vigilante class called Warlock. And yes, Pathfinder don't have long rest/short rest, only rest.
Tweets Oct 4, 2018 @ 5:23pm 
There is no Warlock class in Pathfinder.

The closest thing in the CRPG would be Magus - Effective fighting with a blade and magic weaved together, using light armour.

In the actual TTRPG the Witch has the 'patron' aspect but is much closer to the Wizard than 5e's Warlock is, being a full 9th-level spellcaster.
nshawmc Oct 4, 2018 @ 5:23pm 
How do i get the vigilante class warlock?
nshawmc Oct 4, 2018 @ 5:24pm 
Yes I have been liking the Magus quite a bit. He is cool. I am used to 5e and new to pathfinder. I like some of the differences but still learning them all.
Almost Psychic Oct 4, 2018 @ 5:34pm 
I don't think this game has the vigilante. I'll double check for that. It's missing a lot of classes (and perks) that pathfinder actually has.
axiomofanarchy Oct 4, 2018 @ 5:41pm 
Pathfinder doesn't have warlocks unless you convert it yourself from 3.5. The closest thing to a warlock you'll find in Paizo-published material is probably the Kineticist: http://www.d20pfsrd.com/occult-adventures/occult-classes/kineticist/

That occult stuff was published fairly recently compared to most of the other pathfinder classes though, and many of those didn't even make it into this game, so I doubt we'll be seeing the occult classes anytime soon in PF:KM. If Owlcat does add more classes, I'd expect far older and more popular classes, like the Oracle, Witch, Summoner, Cavalier, and Gunslinger, to be given higher priority.

From the options available in PF:KM, your best bet for getting something that might play like a warlock would probably be a sorcerer focusing on ray spells.
wendigo211 Oct 4, 2018 @ 5:55pm 
Try a RTA sneak attack build, something like an Arcane Trickster or Eldritch Scoundrel. Sneak attacks are stupidly easy to get and work with RTAs. Since you get unlimited cantrips, and sneak damage is significant, it's a reasonable approximation of eldritch blasts.
Jimbo The Hutt Oct 4, 2018 @ 5:59pm 
Originally posted by nshawmc:
How do i get the vigilante class warlock?

It's not in this game, it's a base class for Pathfinder added through a additional book.
Vigilante is a base class that is not in the game.

DnD's Warlock (at least it's 3.5 counterpart) was under copyright so couldn't be carried over into Pathfinder (and the 5e Warlock was made long after Pathfinder was published as its own game).

The closest counterpart to the 3.5 Warlock would be the Witch, but that is another class that did not make the cut for Kingmaker.
Tweets Oct 4, 2018 @ 6:11pm 
Originally posted by nshawmc:
How do i get the vigilante class warlock?

The Vigilante is not in the CRPG to my knowledge, so you cannot take it.
axiomofanarchy Oct 4, 2018 @ 7:04pm 
Originally posted by Shadow88:
The closest counterpart to the 3.5 Warlock would be the Witch, but that is another class that did not make the cut for Kingmaker.
Maybe flavorwise, but mechanically the Witch is almost nothing like the Warlock. The central class feature of the 3.5 Warlock class was the Eldritch Blast class feature, and the closest thing you'll find to that in PF is the Kinetic Blast class feature of the Kineticist. The next closest thing you'll find is the Surge Blast of the Wilder psionic class, but that's from the psionics rules published by Dreamscarred Press, not Paizo, so it's very unofficial.
nshawmc Oct 4, 2018 @ 7:10pm 
Thanks for the replies guys. I do hope Kingmaker adds the new stuff. maybe when 2.0 comes out they will also have a similar expansion to reflect it as well. lots to look forward to.

Awesome to be able to run my own group usually i'm dm.
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