Pathfinder: Kingmaker

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Umh, Stalwart Defender!
I think you guys missed something - at least it isn't in the description:

"While in a defensive stance, the stalwart defender gains a +2 dodge bonus to AC, a +4 morale bonus to his Strength and Constitution, as well as a +2 morale bonus on Will saves. "

You got the other bonusses right, but why remove the STR, CON and Will save bonuses?
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No Stalwart/Improved Stalwart feat
No Lunge feat
No Defensive Power: Bulwark, Unexpected Strike or Halting Blow....
No Antagonize

How am I to build my Stalwart Defender to actually keep enemies at bay?
Sigh... I guess I'll have to wait to build a Stalwart Defender for when an update with more feats arrive...
Last edited by Game kNight Plays; Oct 4, 2018 @ 3:18pm
corisai Oct 4, 2018 @ 3:16pm 
All these feats aren't part of Corebook. Why you're expecting them to come / to present?
Originally posted by corisai:
All these feats aren't part of Corebook. Why you're expecting them to come / to present?

No Defensive Power: Bulwark, Unexpected Strike or Halting Blow....?

I will agree that Stalwart is from Ultimate Combat, also that Antagonize is from Ultimate Magic, but Lunge is from the core rulebook.

Besides... Hammer the Gap is from Ultimate Combat, so your arguement is mute
Last edited by Game kNight Plays; Oct 4, 2018 @ 3:23pm
corisai Oct 4, 2018 @ 3:22pm 
Originally posted by Game kNight Plays:
Originally posted by corisai:
All these feats aren't part of Corebook. Why you're expecting them to come / to present?

No Defensive Power: Bulwark, Unexpected Strike or Halting Blow....?

No, they aren't included in Core Rulebook.

There's too many feats in supplementary books to add them all in the game - so devs pick one that they're liking.

You could ask them to add new feats in DLC, but ... well, IMHO chances are low :)
Bloodrealm Oct 4, 2018 @ 3:22pm 
Originally posted by corisai:
All these feats aren't part of Corebook. Why you're expecting them to come / to present?
You realize that they included stuff from as late as Horror Adventures, a book from 2016, right? There might even be stuff even more recent.
corisai Oct 4, 2018 @ 3:24pm 
Originally posted by Bloodrealm:
Originally posted by corisai:
All these feats aren't part of Corebook. Why you're expecting them to come / to present?
You realize that they included stuff from as late as Horror Adventures, a book from 2016, right? There might even be stuff even more recent.

Well, I realize that if they'd included ALL feats, then game price was around maybe even 100+ euro. Sad, but true.

P.S. I still lack my belowed metamagic feats, but ... well, their budget was limited.
Originally posted by corisai:
Originally posted by Game kNight Plays:

No Defensive Power: Bulwark, Unexpected Strike or Halting Blow....?

No, they aren't included in Core Rulebook.

There's too many feats in supplementary books to add them all in the game - so devs pick one that they're liking.

You could ask them to add new feats in DLC, but ... well, IMHO chances are low :)

Defensive Powers are IN the Prestige class... it's there...

I will agree that Stalwart is from Ultimate Combat, also that Antagonize is from Ultimate Magic, but Lunge is from the core rulebook.

Besides... Hammer the Gap is from Ultimate Combat, so your argument is mute (which is a feat that is in the game...)
Last edited by Game kNight Plays; Oct 4, 2018 @ 3:25pm
Balkoth Oct 4, 2018 @ 3:26pm 
Antagonize was such a dumb descision to create. Why have a taunting skill in Pathfinder I will never know.
Grinnerz Oct 4, 2018 @ 3:27pm 
Originally posted by corisai:
Originally posted by Game kNight Plays:

No Defensive Power: Bulwark, Unexpected Strike or Halting Blow....?

No, they aren't included in Core Rulebook.
Neither are Stalwart Defender, Alchemist, Inquisitor, Magus, or any of the Archetypes. Deadly Aim iirc isn't Core and it's in. Many of the spells aren't Core. I don't really see your point. Yes, I get they can't put in everything, but just having it as not Core isn't reason enough.
Originally posted by Balkoth:
Antagonize was such a dumb descision to create. Why have a taunting skill in Pathfinder I will never know.

Because it is a thing? For the CRPG it would have been perfect to implement...
Aeternum Oct 6, 2018 @ 3:05am 
How is small funding relevant to the fact that there are missing feats? Was Paizo charging Owlcat money for allowing them to add feats to Kingmaker?
NixBoxDone Oct 6, 2018 @ 3:22am 
Are you really that dense? Small funding is relevant because the amount of money they received is directly proportional to the amount of hours they had to actually do the work. Less money equals less time to work on the game which equals to more bugs not found/fixed in time and less actual content.

They don't need to spend extra money for every feat to Paizo, they need to spend extra time to implement them and that time has to be paid for the people that do the work.

This game has all the hallmarks of a very ambitious project that ran out of funds early and therefore had to release so the sales could pay for more manhours.
Give it some time and maybe, if the reception is positive and more people buy, they'll add more content.

Seriously, I get that there's a lot of stuff missing and there's a bunch of bugs in the game - that's disappointing. But for a crowd-sourced project this one is actually pretty good and as seen by the amount of patches since it released the developers are hard at work trying to polish it now that they've got money from the Steam release.
Last edited by NixBoxDone; Oct 6, 2018 @ 3:24am
corisai Oct 6, 2018 @ 5:26am 
Originally posted by NixBoxDone:
But for a crowd-sourced project this one is actually pretty good

^^ This. I still remember how buggy was, for example KSP. SO buggy that players invented kraken (aka "bug") engines xD
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