Devs: Please consider adding Spell Shield, Spell Breaking and Contingency spells

[Telmorial]

I just had a look at the Wizard spell list in Reddit (I haven't posted a link to that list in case it's against some Stream forum rule). Very nice but it's missing some spells which really made the BG spell battles have so much DEPTH.

I'm talking about 2 main types;
1. There were various spells which could absorb X levels of spells. EG. So you'd cast that on yourself and it would absorb 9 levels worth of spells (3 Fireballs or 1 Meteor Swawm).

2. There were also spells which sole purpose was to take down defensive spells, including these spell shields in point 1 (but they could also take down other defensive spells such as Stoneskin)

Have these 2 types of spells would add a much deeper level of spell battles. The players would have to make a decision to memorise these spells or just batter down the defensive spell with normal damage.

Also, another great spell series in BG was the Contingency and Spell Sequencer spells;
1. Contingency Spells: You would set a criteria (EG. When I’m down to 50% HPs) and assign 1 or more spells (depending on the type of Contingency spell) to automatically trigger when that criteria is met.
2. Spell Sequencers: You can cast X number of spells into your spell sequencer spell. Then you can trigger the Sequencer later. The advantage is it (I think from memory) was cast as a free action and the higher level Sequencer spell could cast multiple spells, very quickly, one after the other.
It was kind of a spell to use in a ‘oh crap’ moment!

Oh and finally, I hope that Reddit spell list is wrong because according to that, there are ZERO Level 9 Wizard Evocation spells! Can't be correct?!

[Shower With Joe Dad Simulator]

Don't forget Greater Contingency!

[CHAO$$$]

♥♥♥♥ NO

those spells are nothing but a pain in the ass but add ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ gameplay depth

[Telmorial]

Originally posted by CHAO$$$:

♥♥♥♥ NO

those spells are nothing but a pain in the ass but add ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ gameplay depth

Thanks for your constructive criticism.

You could argue the Contingency Spells and Sequencers could be hard to balance but the Spell Shields and Spell breaking spells would certainly add a lot of depth. Right now (I think) to take down enemy spell defences (Stoneskin etc), we only have 2 choices;
1. Hit them with damage
2. Try a Dispel

My suggestions add a 3rd choice.

Maybe your play through(s) of BG were different than mine but for me, they added a load more depth to the spell duels.

But now that I've read through that Reddit spell list, I'm more concerned with the lack of iconic spells such as Meteor Swarm (or any level 9 Evocation spells!), Prismatic Shield, Disjunction and the Bigby Hand spells to name a few.

[Myrryr]

Baldur's Gate was 2e DnD. This Pathfinder. Some of those spells you mentioned do not exist in Pathfinder.

[corisai]

Originally posted by Myrryr:

Baldur's Gate was 2e DnD. This Pathfinder. Some of those spells you mentioned do not exist in Pathfinder.

For example all Bigby's :)

[Telmorial]

Originally posted by Myrryr:

Baldur's Gate was 2e DnD. This Pathfinder. Some of those spells you mentioned do not exist in Pathfinder.

Ahh, thanks for the info. I don't know much about Pathfinder. I'd be surprised if Pathfinder doesn't have at least the 'absorb X levels of spells' one though. I can't remember the spell names though to research it online.

[corisai]

Originally posted by Telmorial:

Originally posted by Myrryr:

Baldur's Gate was 2e DnD. This Pathfinder. Some of those spells you mentioned do not exist in Pathfinder.

Ahh, thanks for the info. I don't know much about Pathfinder. I'd be surprised if Pathfinder doesn't have at least the 'absorb X levels of spells' one though. I can't remember the spell names though to research it online.

While it have - they still don't help you against meteor shower and other AoE spells :)

[=[NK]= Col. Jack O'Neil]

Globe of invulnerability :)

[Shadenuat]

Would be awesome.

You mostly fight monsters though, they don't cast that much.

But having mage duels would be great.

[Azurewrath]

I miss the Greater and Less Invulnerability shield. Those are classic D&D mainstays.