Defaced Sisters seem weridly hostile (spoilers)

[Mlmiii]

So after I returned the two living Sisters to the camp they turned the barbarians against me. I had no opportunity to attempt diplomacy. What gives?

[Mysticyde]

The next chapter gives some more lore on the sisters. But heres the basic gist without spoiling anything. they're chaotic evil asf.

There's supposed to be an option to use diplomacy on the Barbarians. But you won't get it if you insulted them during the initial feast.

[Mlmiii]

I didn't is the thing. The only thing I did that they didn't like was ask if the sisters could join for dinner, which seems like a really weird thing to attempt murder for.

[Esmian]

Some of the barbarians will turn on you no matter what but you usually have the option to keep some of them non-hostile(they won't help though) if you did their quests/were cool with them.

[Greybishop]

Originally posted by Mlmiii:

I didn't is the thing. The only thing I did that they didn't like was ask if the sisters could join for dinner, which seems like a really weird thing to attempt murder for.

They are evil anyway. They were going to sacrifice the barbarians to Vordikai and you get in the way. The barbarian leader tells you this, which is why he was dragging his feet in helping the witches (witches have a bad habit of leading barbarians to their deaths needlessly).

You fixed the issue and had to be stopped, which is why they turned on you, the barbarian leader knew it was BS, but followed orders.

[Jackdaw Mask]

There is blue high litable text tool tip(blue text meaning your previous choices) when Durgath's part in dialog comes up, it points out you apparently failed to earn his respect earlier.

Sooo yeah, barbarians are serious business about table manners

[Omega13]

The sister betrayal makes sense later but is abrupt as hell when it happens. It's written kind of poorly.

[NegativeZero]

Originally posted by Mlmiii:

So after I returned the two living Sisters to the camp they turned the barbarians against me. I had no opportunity to attempt diplomacy. What gives?

There is a possible diplomacy check with the barbarians to get some of them to not fight. There's no diplomacy with the sisters because they're obviously not open to negotiations. It's obvious af from the moment you meet them that they're evil and are up to no good.


I don't think any of the writing is especially good in this game so far, but I thought this barbarians/sisters part was especially bad.

My favorite was in the cave where if you let Amiri kill the sister because she's obviously up to no good and is getting a bunch of barbarians killed for her evil schemes the raven asks you why you let it happen and you get only 3 dumb answer choices: like 1) I wanted to spare her suffering 2) don't remember this choice but it was equally as stupid and 3) none of your business. Absolutely quality writing...

[Morgian]

You don't expect it, since you have no way of knowing who they are at this time. Once that is revealed it is pretty clear why they want to kill you.

[Deus Ex Angel]

This part of the sisters was also weird for me. I saved one, one was scripted dead, and the third was killed by Amiri. But the dialogue at the camp says I killed two and found one dead. =S

It was also weird that they are characterised as CE, the first one I saved was quite grateful, the one at the camp asking you for help seemed genuinely concerned for her siblings. Even the one who led the barbarians to their deaths seemed more zealous than evil per se.

This whole sequence was confusing and unsatisfying. Made your good choices feel like bad tbh.

[Zaltys]

Keep playing and it'll get explained.
Though if you read the text when you find the dead sister, it should be clear that they haven't been quite honest with you.

[raubrey]

I'll never raise a toast to barbians again! Good fight though.

[Vikings]

Originally posted by NegativeZero:

Originally posted by Mlmiii:

So after I returned the two living Sisters to the camp they turned the barbarians against me. I had no opportunity to attempt diplomacy. What gives?

There is a possible diplomacy check with the barbarians to get some of them to not fight. There's no diplomacy with the sisters because they're obviously not open to negotiations. It's obvious af from the moment you meet them that they're evil and are up to no good.


I don't think any of the writing is especially good in this game so far, but I thought this barbarians/sisters part was especially bad.

My favorite was in the cave where if you let Amiri kill the sister because she's obviously up to no good and is getting a bunch of barbarians killed for her evil schemes the raven asks you why you let it happen and you get only 3 dumb answer choices: like 1) I wanted to spare her suffering 2) don't remember this choice but it was equally as stupid and 3) none of your business. Absolutely quality writing...

Yeah this comment is spot on. Its basically, i spared her more suffering, she stood in my way, or non of your beeswax... The game has a good engine in terms of time management and such but almost the entire story seems extremely condensed and rushed...