Help understanding teamwork feats

[mypony89]

I lvl'd a 5 monster tactician 15 abyssal sorc. I can summon many monsters which is fun but I went 5 monster tactician so I could get the summon tactics feat.

I tested it out on a man eater troll to see if the summons really were getting the benefits of my feats which are precise strike, outflank, and seize the moment. I'm actively attacking the mob along with my summons but I can't for the life of me tell in the combat log or character screen for my pet, if they are effected by summon tactics.
Any help here? Am I missing where it spells it out for me?

[Near Gravity]

Originally posted by mypony89:

I lvl'd a 5 monster tactician 15 abyssal sorc. I can summon many monsters which is fun but I went 5 monster tactician so I could get the summon tactics feat.

I tested it out on a man eater troll to see if the summons really were getting the benefits of my feats which are precise strike, outflank, and seize the moment. I'm actively attacking the mob along with my summons but I can't for the life of me tell in the combat log or character screen for my pet, if they are effected by summon tactics.
Any help here? Am I missing where it spells it out for me?

Some abilities, (most that affect casting actually), tend to be class specific. I don't know about that one for sure, but it might only work on the Monster tactician Summons.

[mypony89]

Originally posted by Near Gravity:

Originally posted by mypony89:

I lvl'd a 5 monster tactician 15 abyssal sorc. I can summon many monsters which is fun but I went 5 monster tactician so I could get the summon tactics feat.

I tested it out on a man eater troll to see if the summons really were getting the benefits of my feats which are precise strike, outflank, and seize the moment. I'm actively attacking the mob along with my summons but I can't for the life of me tell in the combat log or character screen for my pet, if they are effected by summon tactics.
Any help here? Am I missing where it spells it out for me?

Some abilities, (most that affect casting actually), tend to be class specific. I don't know about that one for sure, but it might only work on the Monster tactician Summons.

The ability states, "At 5th level, every time a monster tactician casts a summoning spell, all creatures summoned by the spell are treated as if they knew all of the monster tactician's teamwork feats," so I figured that included all teamwork feats taken during lvl up. I did a Google search and noticed people saying that the teamwork feats were all broken but I had thought owlcat had fixed them all. Have they not?

[VoD]

Perhaps the teamwork feats only work for for your cleric spells (spells on your inqui spell list) not for the arcane summons of the sorc?

[mypony89]

Originally posted by VoD:

Perhaps the teamwork feats only work for for your cleric spells (spells on your inqui spell list) not for the arcane summons of the sorc?

I'll try summoning only the cleric and then another fight with sorc and see if I notice anything different between the two later tonight.

[mypony89]

I tried the monster tactician special summons and couldn't tell a difference on those either. Anyone with experience in whether it's still broken?

All I'm seeing is "attack roll 15 (roll 11 +4 modifiers)
Attack bonus+4
Bab 0
Str 3
Size 1.

Edit: I looked on an attack the mob received from me and I saw the "Outflank"as part of my attack bonus which means the summons should have it to. It's not showing though so I guess it's still broken.

[Near Gravity]

Originally posted by mypony89:

Originally posted by Near Gravity:

Some abilities, (most that affect casting actually), tend to be class specific. I don't know about that one for sure, but it might only work on the Monster tactician Summons.

The ability states, "At 5th level, every time a monster tactician casts a summoning spell, all creatures summoned by the spell are treated as if they knew all of the monster tactician's teamwork feats," so I figured that included all teamwork feats taken during lvl up. I did a Google search and noticed people saying that the teamwork feats were all broken but I had thought owlcat had fixed them all. Have they not?

Poorly worded description then. The Monster Tactician gets Class specific Summoning spell as abilities, and I'm pretty sure it is just these spells the ability applies to. It's a successive ability that improves as you increase in level, while your corresponding summoning spells do as well, so it's probably assumed that you would infer they were talking about the summoning spells it's tied to.

It's very likely they use a modified base spell specifically for the spell-like ability summons, that's designed to work with this.

If you want to test it, just use your ability summons and see if it's working. If it's not working in either case, then possibly a mod has broken summonthing

Looks like you already tested it. F11 and Report bug if you're not using mods.