Pathfinder: Kingmaker

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[Slayer] Oct 30, 2019 @ 6:28pm
How do you counter being mind controlled?
Was fighting the lady of shallow and she dominated my whole party. Still happened to kill her since even when they were dominated they attacked her for some reason. Had to reload a couple times though because if Amiri gets dominated first and she starts targeting allies I am screwed.

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Mork Oct 30, 2019 @ 6:48pm 
There is no spell that totally protect you against it. You basically just want to increase will save with everything you got.

Spell like Unbreakable Heart, heroism, good hope ... can help.
[Slayer] Oct 30, 2019 @ 6:52pm 
Originally posted by Mork:
There is no spell that totally protect you against it. You basically just want to increase will save with everything you got.

Spell like Unbreakable Heart, heroism, good hope ... can help.

Had my front liners buffed with pretty much all of those. Still couldn't resist fully getting mind controlled, but at least they still attacked her even if I couldn't control them anymore.
Mork Oct 30, 2019 @ 7:14pm 
yeah.. she is one of the strongest enemy in the game for her level.
dwarner Oct 30, 2019 @ 7:45pm 
Originally posted by Mork:
yeah.. she is one of the strongest enemy in the game for her level.

I haven't found that to be the case at all. You can usually just Charge in and kill her before she does anything.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1883866869

Pals get Immunity to Charm early and Immunity to Compulsions late along with a corresponding Aura to boost team saves. You can get kingdom-wide Immunity to Compulsions. She's Fae so Feyspeaker 4 and Defender of the True World get +4 saves against her. There are a lot of ways to boost Will Saves in general as well:

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1882795802

If your characters are still attacking her then it's Confusion rather than Domination, since one of the options on Confused is to attack the nearest creature.
Last edited by dwarner; Oct 30, 2019 @ 7:50pm
Mork Oct 30, 2019 @ 7:56pm 
You are level 18... of course she is easy :P

I wanted to say that she is a hard enemy for her level when you fight her during chap 2 or 3.
dwarner Oct 30, 2019 @ 8:46pm 
Originally posted by Mork:
You are level 18... of course she is easy :P

I wanted to say that she is a hard enemy for her level when you fight her during chap 2 or 3.

No need to fight her until you need her piece of the relic armor, and that’s ch 4 at the earliest. Pretty sure charged in this time lvl 14. Maybe Blindfight was giving Gaze Immunity?
Babbles Oct 31, 2019 @ 1:59am 
Originally posted by dwarner:
Originally posted by Mork:
You are level 18... of course she is easy :P

I wanted to say that she is a hard enemy for her level when you fight her during chap 2 or 3.

No need to fight her until you need her piece of the relic armor, and that’s ch 4 at the earliest. Pretty sure charged in this time lvl 14. Maybe Blindfight was giving Gaze Immunity?

There is a late game spell that gives +5 to will saves.
BlueBangkok Oct 31, 2019 @ 2:45am 
No matter how high your saves are you will roll a natural 1 sooner or later. When that happens you can either reload or try your own dominate / dispel magic (greater). Both require passing a roll.

There is no spell in the game which dispels domination without a roll (like remove paralysis does for paralysis) and Mind Blank only increases your saves against mind effects unlike DnD3.5 where it provides total immunity.
Eclipse Oct 31, 2019 @ 2:54am 
If I am correct she uses gaze spell,so blind fighting feat should help.Unlike Rovaug spawn,who has DC 37 mind control spell that can’t be resisted and on top of it spawn dispels your buffs.
BlueBangkok Oct 31, 2019 @ 2:57am 
Originally posted by Eclipse:
If I am correct she uses gaze spell,so blind fighting feat should help.Unlike Rovaug spawn,who has DC 37 mind control spell that can’t be resisted and on top of it spawn dispels your buffs.

The entire Spawn fight is an exercise in reload RNG. One of the most unnecessarily boring fights in the game.
Ichthyic (Banned) Oct 31, 2019 @ 5:22am 
you can buy scrolls of "Break Enchantment" from priests in any of your villages you built a shrine in.

those are 30 foot AOE enchantment wipers. will remove all confusion and mind control effects.

...along with any and all enchantment school buffs the enemies AND your characters have too, so use wisely.

you might also try dispel magic: target if you have a decent mage in your party. it's only a level 3 spell.

worse comes to worse, cast hold person on whoever gets mind warped, or sicken, or stinking cloud, or what have you. you can also cast weak summons next to whoever is mind fkd for them to attack instead of your main characters which will occupy them until you are ready to dispel the enchantment, or it wears off on its own. dominations end when you kill the enemy that cast the domination as well. confusion does not though.

"cleanse" also removes negative enchantments, but I can't figure out how that would work, since it's a "personal" spell you cast on yourself.
Last edited by Ichthyic; Oct 31, 2019 @ 5:26am
dwarner Oct 31, 2019 @ 5:41am 
Originally posted by BlueBangkok:
No matter how high your saves are you will roll a natural 1 sooner or later. When that happens you can either reload or try your own dominate / dispel magic (greater). Both require passing a roll.

There is no spell in the game which dispels domination without a roll (like remove paralysis does for paralysis) and Mind Blank only increases your saves against mind effects unlike DnD3.5 where it provides total immunity.

Unyielding Heart (lvl one spell) delays it.
Last edited by dwarner; Oct 31, 2019 @ 5:42am
Ichthyic (Banned) Oct 31, 2019 @ 5:58am 
again... break enchantment.
Notabot187 Oct 31, 2019 @ 6:23am 
Protection from alignment is supposed to help. Idk if it is much use with that fight though.
dwarner Oct 31, 2019 @ 6:26am 
Originally posted by Ichthyic:
again... break enchantment.

Break Enchantment is poor in general. You have to roll and your chances aren't as good as Dispel. Protection from Alignment is only good for Pets since the bonus is Resistance so doesn't stack with most Equipment.
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