Magic Trait Feats & Background Feats

[The Infinity Sock]

One of the things i like about neverwinter nights two is you get background feats so you get special dialogue in game also i like the idea of having magic traits in kingmaker so what do you lot think of having magic traits and background feats added to kingmaker also here is the full list of magic traits http://www.d20pfsrd.com/traits/magic-traits/

[InEffect]

Creating content that low% of people will see runs contrary to making a big game. You either go wide or go far. That's why there is almost no race/class/etc specific content.

[Dixon Sider]

I wouldnt mind more customization, but they would have to make the game a lot more difficult if they added these to balance it out. Too much would make the game too easy. Im already worried about the respec lol. But im guessing it will cost an arm and a leg (hopefully).

[InEffect]

Originally posted by dixon sider:

I wouldnt mind more customization, but they would have to make the game a lot more difficult if they added these to balance it out. Too much would make the game too easy. Im already worried about the respec lol. But im guessing it will cost an arm and a leg (hopefully).

I am not worried about respec. It's for low difficulties and will not work with challenging and above. Also NWN2 backgrounds are inconsequential. +1 to fort saves and the likes being the best ones. It's pretty much just a cosmetic option for a semblance of RP.
Traits are different, but nothing too insane for the most part

[New Willinium]

Originally posted by InEffect:

Creating content that low% of people will see runs contrary to making a big game. You either go wide or go far. That's why there is almost no race/class/etc specific content.

There IS some though, at least for religious classes, where you can chime in about the tenets of your god. I know that a Cleric/Inqusitor of Asmodeous gets some, though very little, dialog like that with Jhod.

[Dixon Sider]

Originally posted by InEffect:

I am not worried about respec. It's for low difficulties and will not work with challenging and above. Also NWN2 backgrounds are inconsequential. +1 to fort saves and the likes being the best ones. It's pretty much just a cosmetic option for a semblance of RP.
Traits are different, but nothing too insane for the most part

Thats actually really good to hear. I was thinking adding respec would be an enormous buff to your party because you can then change your characters to fit the part of the story you are in. Im glad it wont hurt the balance of higher difficulties

[InEffect]

Originally posted by New Willinium:

There IS some though, at least for religious classes, where you can chime in about the tenets of your god. I know that a Cleric/Inqusitor of Asmodeous gets some, though very little, dialog like that with Jhod.

There is a good chance those were made very early in development, so there was no reason to scrap those when vision for the game became clear.

[New Willinium]

Originally posted by InEffect:

Originally posted by New Willinium:

There IS some though, at least for religious classes, where you can chime in about the tenets of your god. I know that a Cleric/Inqusitor of Asmodeous gets some, though very little, dialog like that with Jhod.

There is a good chance those were made very early in development, so there was no reason to scrap those when vision for the game became clear.

. . . I really should do a full playthrough one day with a Cleric or Inquisitor just to find out how much dialog like this there is. I don't know how to dig through the files to find diety checks so that would be only way to be sure. Why do you presume it was an early development thing?

[InEffect]

Originally posted by New Willinium:

. . . I really should do a full playthrough one day with a Cleric or Inquisitor just to find out how much dialog like this there is. I don't know how to dig through the files to find diety checks so that would be only way to be sure. Why do you presume it was an early development thing?

makes sense from a consistency standpoint. It is clear that class/race was scrapped from influencing dialogues at some point. Someone came in and said "we don't have enough time/resources for that - make uniform dialogues instead or we'll never ship a game"
I don't have inside knowledge ofc, but it's usually how such things happen.

[The Infinity Sock]

Originally posted by New Willinium:

Originally posted by InEffect:

There is a good chance those were made very early in development, so there was no reason to scrap those when vision for the game became clear.

. . . I really should do a full playthrough one day with a Cleric or Inquisitor just to find out how much dialog like this there is. I don't know how to dig through the files to find diety checks so that would be only way to be sure. Why do you presume it was an early development thing?

If you do play as a cleric pick calistria as a deity you will get lots of dialog from picking calistria as a deity

[New Willinium]

Originally posted by The Infinity Sock:

Originally posted by New Willinium:

. . . I really should do a full playthrough one day with a Cleric or Inquisitor just to find out how much dialog like this there is. I don't know how to dig through the files to find diety checks so that would be only way to be sure. Why do you presume it was an early development thing?

If you do play as a cleric pick calistria as a deity you will get lots of dialog from picking calistria as a deity

. . . I can see that actually. Regongar, Octavia, and half of Pitax seems to worship Calistra. As does the Avenger trying to convert Ekondayo. So it makes sense that such a deity would get plenty of checks.

[Shinno]

I can add Sarenrae, Torag, Erastil and Gorum to that list. Lots of dialog. Same with the most deities I believe, except Zon-Kython for some reason.