Pathfinder: Kingmaker

Pathfinder: Kingmaker

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toroks Aug 1, 2019 @ 6:18am
The game is missing a real spontaneous divine caster class
I really love to play spontaneous divine casters in games like these, like I played Favored Soul in Neverwinter Nights 2. A shame there is no comparable option in this game. I prefer wearing metal armor and hurl around spells at will. Not a fan of fiddling around in the spell-book, so druids and clerics are out. Inquisitor is the closest thing, but they are stunted casters (max level 6 spells).

A big hole in the class selection for me...
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Shadenuat Aug 1, 2019 @ 6:27am 
Mod yourself an Oracle in.
jsaving Aug 1, 2019 @ 6:46am 
It's hard to understand why a favored soul or oracle (the Pathfinder version of favored soul) were excluded from the core game since a majority of the work (coding cleric spells) had to be done anyway. However you can play an oracle using the eldritch arcana mod if you wish.
Notabot187 Aug 1, 2019 @ 8:10am 
Originally posted by j_saving:
It's hard to understand why a favored soul or oracle (the Pathfinder version of favored soul) were excluded from the core game since a majority of the work (coding cleric spells) had to be done anyway. However you can play an oracle using the eldritch arcana mod if you wish.
Probably because of the Revelations and Curse mechanics that Oracle has.
fastello Aug 1, 2019 @ 9:28am 
eldritch arcana on nexus mods has the oracle in and call of the wild has the hunter which is a druid inquisitor sort of
Dixon Sider Aug 1, 2019 @ 9:36am 
Ya I wish there was one more divine class myself. There are only cleric, druid, and bard, correct? Bard isnt a viable main healer until much later. You cant rest after every fight. So you need either a cleric or a druid in each group, or playing will be a nightmare
Shadenuat Aug 1, 2019 @ 9:57am 
I also would like a prestige continuing divine casting similar to Eldritch Knight.
Pink Eye (Banned) Aug 1, 2019 @ 9:58am 
I want hell knights. Because playing as a goody two shoes paladin is tiresome.
toroks Aug 1, 2019 @ 12:00pm 
Originally posted by Dixon Sider:
Ya I wish there was one more divine class myself. There are only cleric, druid, and bard, correct? Bard isnt a viable main healer until much later. You cant rest after every fight. So you need either a cleric or a druid in each group, or playing will be a nightmare
Bard is an arcane caster, not a divine caster, although they do have some healing spells. Inquisitor is a divine caster, but max level 6 spells.
toroks Aug 1, 2019 @ 1:13pm 
Originally posted by fastello:
eldritch arcana on nexus mods has the oracle in and call of the wild has the hunter which is a druid inquisitor sort of

Interresting, I haven't installed any mods for this game yet, but maybe I'll try that.

I saw this video demonstrating the mod with oracle:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7fWbIcwFP8
Last edited by toroks; Aug 1, 2019 @ 1:14pm
ELVIS Aug 1, 2019 @ 5:38pm 
Originally posted by toroks:
I really love to play spontaneous divine casters in games like these, like I played Favored Soul in Neverwinter Nights 2. A shame there is no comparable option in this game. I prefer wearing metal armor and hurl around spells at will. Not a fan of fiddling around in the spell-book, so druids and clerics are out. Inquisitor is the closest thing, but they are stunted casters (max level 6 spells).

A big hole in the class selection for me...

I think they left the Oracle out because it might become most people's "obvious" choice as their main character because its spells and abilities are Charisma-based (some Oracle mysteries even let you use Cha for Armor Class instead of Dex) and you'll want high Charisma and Persuasion because there are some critical conversations where only your main character can make the Persuasion skill check.
Read my pinned thread on mods to make call of the wild and eldritch arcana compatible.

Also I wouldn't recommend the 'updated' eldritch arcana on nexus as it the modder has made a lot of differences.

The GitHub one has less deviation from the original mod.
Last edited by =[NK]= Col. Jack O'Neil; Aug 1, 2019 @ 6:02pm
Shadenuat Aug 1, 2019 @ 6:27pm 
Originally posted by ELVIS:
I think they left the Oracle out because it might become most people's "obvious" choice
You don't need Charisma bonus to pass every Persuasion check out there.

Plus, there are already classes like that. Feyspeaker for example.
Dixon Sider Aug 1, 2019 @ 6:37pm 
What exactly makes an Oracle spontaneous? Is it similar to a wild mage?
Last edited by Dixon Sider; Aug 1, 2019 @ 6:37pm
deuxhero Aug 1, 2019 @ 7:10pm 
Originally posted by Notabot187:
Originally posted by j_saving:
It's hard to understand why a favored soul or oracle (the Pathfinder version of favored soul) were excluded from the core game since a majority of the work (coding cleric spells) had to be done anyway. However you can play an oracle using the eldritch arcana mod if you wish.
Probably because of the Revelations and Curse mechanics that Oracle has.

I never got this claim. There's enough options for a curse that can be implemented in a video game it's absolutely doable. I just went and counted and almost all curses could be with no alterations. The revelations that can't be implemented (divination effects) are relatively few.

Originally posted by Dixon Sider:
What exactly makes an Oracle spontaneous? Is it similar to a wild mage?

Sorcerers and Oracles are spontaneous. Wizards and Clerics are prepared.
Dixon Sider Aug 1, 2019 @ 7:11pm 
Originally posted by deuxhero:
Sorcerers and Oracles are spontaneous. Wizards and Clerics are prepared.

Ohh spontaneous is the type of spell preparation. Gotcha.
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Date Posted: Aug 1, 2019 @ 6:18am
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