Disintegrate DOES disintegrate equipment

[xunlaiAgent]

If you kill monsters with disintegrate, you will not always get the gear they would otherwise drop. I have now tested this twice. Once on the lich boss (if you disintegrate, you only get his ♥♥♥♥♥♥ crossbow and not the cool hat) and another time one the troll boss in edge of time (you again only get weapon if you disintegrate).

Oh well, I must have missed quite a bit of loot because I use disintegrate a lot...

[Pink Eye]

Wait, wait, WAIT. I have the spell, but never used it, but doesn't the description say loot doesn't get lost? Sounds like a bug to mee, press f11 and send in a bug report.

[xunlaiAgent]

Originally posted by Pink Eye:

Wait, wait, WAIT. I have the spell, but never used it, but doesn't the description say loot doesn't get lost? Sounds like a bug to mee, press f11 and send in a bug report.

It does say that yeah. But it's a lie

[Pink Eye]

Originally posted by xunlaiAgent:

Originally posted by Pink Eye:

Wait, wait, WAIT. I have the spell, but never used it, but doesn't the description say loot doesn't get lost? Sounds like a bug to mee, press f11 and send in a bug report.

It does say yeah. But what it says is not true lol.

Might be a bug.

[xunlaiAgent]

Originally posted by Pink Eye:

Originally posted by xunlaiAgent:

It does say yeah. But what it says is not true lol.

Might be a bug.

Yeah certainly is. I should report it.

[Daliena]

Huh. I mean, it -sorta- makes sense, but it's also a pretty nasty way to discourage using Disintegrate, and with a Transmutation specialist Arcane Trickster who loves her ray spells being the only official arcane caster companion to boot..

I guess I'm lucky in that I mostly used it to put down things that kept regenerating and I couldn't find out how to shut it down when neither fire or acid would do the trick (and no, it wasn't the Linnorm).

[Nightbringer]

You also loose gear if you baleful polymorpgh them.

Should be able to dispel the polymorph after you kill them.

[Grifta]

Heh, there's a Pathfinder AP where you need the heart's blood (litterally blood taken directly from inside it's heart) of something to get out of this extra-dimensional space. You fight it 1-2 sessions after getting to the level that has disintegrate. Yea, our DM had to do some mental gymnastics to avoid derailing the campaign. :P

[Gamall Wednesday Ida]

I can confirm that is still the case a year later.

Tested on a bandit, twice with each spell: death by hellfire ray: weapon and armor; by disintegration: weapon only.

[jsaving]

Yes that is correct. Note that Owlcat hasn't said whether they consider it to be a bug so there is no reason to think it would be fixed in the latest or indeed any patch.

[Gamall Wednesday Ida]

Given that the spell description *explicitly* states that the spell does not affect equipment, unless Owlcat *deliberately* set out to write misleading spell descriptions, it is indeed a bug,whether it is acknowledged as such or not.

Either the description must be fixed to reflect the behaviour, or vice versa.

Quote: "a disintegrated creature's equipment is unaffected".

[jsaving]

Owlcat didn't write the descriptions, they simply copied-and-pasted tabletop descriptions to save time, even when they explicitly intended other behavior. There are lots more discrepancies than just this one, often with no clear guidance from Owlcat on whether they intended to follow the text but failed or whether they intended to update the text but didn't.

[Gamall Wednesday Ida]

I failed my Perception check on your point.

Are you arguing the semantics of the word "bug" ? That a bug Owlcat does not intend to fix should not be called a bug?

Or are you making the more pragmatic point that I should not *expect* a fix at any point because fixing such minor bugs is a level of polish that should not be expected from Owlcat? (charitable interpretation: they have other fish to fry)

I do not have high hopes for a fix, admittedly, but I think such things are best brought to light again and again so that naive players, like myself, who trust the spells to do what they say, are forewarned. (Especially since it is not clear that quest items cannot be affected. Even if they can't, the monetary loss from using this spell can be enormous!)

[=[NK]= Col. Jack O'Neil]

Some people just defend the game regardless. Yes owlcat should fix it.

[=[NK]= Col. Jack O'Neil]

Considering it would take them 1 minute to just change the spell description and write the patch note.

[jsaving]

Totally agree and I hope they will!