Cloak of the Winter Wolf

[peacefighter]

I got this cape called, "Cloak of the Winter Wolf". Its description is "On a successful bite attack wearer deals 1d6 additional damage and trips the target". What is this "bite attack"? It is a very expensive item; and I don't know how does it work.

[1ttffsse]

bite attacks are made usually by toons that are
a.) shapeshifted into a druid animal form/dragon form etc or
b.) have an ability granted by barbarian rage - there is an option for barbs to get bite attacks while in rage mode or
c.) feral mutagen ability (vivesectionist special ability) and finally
d.) motherless tiefling get a bite attack

[Sotanaht]

The best way is the shapeshifts. Other forms of bite attack are always secondary attacks that use 1/2 strength damage and -5 attack bonus. Shapeshifted bites are primary, so they get full strength and attack bonus, plus Haste adds an additional bite for them.

I'd kind of like to know if any of those stack however. If I had a motherless Teifling shapeshifted into a dragon, would he be able to use 3 bites with haste (1 base, 1 haste, 1 racial)? If I managed to give him enough barbarian levels as well to take the rage talent could he make 4 bite attacks then?

[fastello]

no you lose stuff like that when you shapeshift

[Sotanaht]

Originally posted by fastello:

no you lose stuff like that when you shapeshift

Nope. Maybe you should, but you don't. The only thing you lose while shapeshifted are weapon attacks (but not secondary effects such as freedom of movement granted by the weapon) and your chest-slot armor. Rings, cloaks etc and shields still work.

Again, this is based on what happens in Kingmaker, not tabletop rules.

Unless by "stuff like that" you meant the extra attacks granted by class/abilities rather than the cloak?

[=[NK]= Col. Jack O'Neil]

Put it on a melee fighter and I think they'll take a small penalty to all their attacks due to performing a natural attack while doing a full attack (not moving and only attacking in a round when they have both a standard and move action) (I could be wrong about the small penalty to all the attacks, best check the combat logs)

[haplok]

Also Dragon Disciple Bite.
Also Aspect of the Wolf Druid/Ranger spell.

And they all stack...

As for shapeshifting being the most effective at Bite tripping, I highly doubt it.
Have a look:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hUSIWM5D-M

[Takkik]

Originally posted by Sotanaht:

The best way is the shapeshifts. Other forms of bite attack are always secondary attacks that use 1/2 strength damage and -5 attack bonus. Shapeshifted bites are primary, so they get full strength and attack bonus, plus Haste adds an additional bite for them.

I'd kind of like to know if any of those stack however. If I had a motherless Teifling shapeshifted into a dragon, would he be able to use 3 bites with haste (1 base, 1 haste, 1 racial)? If I managed to give him enough barbarian levels as well to take the rage talent could he make 4 bite attacks then?

Natural attack are secondary (-5 to attack) only if you use weapons/unarmed. The feral mutagen that give you 2 claws + bite are all made at full BAB if you use a weapon set without weapons.