Confused about Finesse Training and Fencing Grace.

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I'm building a Rogue / Sword Saint / Duelist and I was wondering if the Finesse Training class feature of the Rogue of choosing a finesseable weapon at lvls 3, 11 and 17 to use Dex instead of Str for damage rolls was basically the same thing as Fencing Grace. I'm focusing on Estoc btw. Should I choose Fencing Grace (Estoc), Finesse Training (Estoc), or both?
Thanks in advance.

[Ferric_Fireheart]

those both do the same thing(add dexterity to damage with the selected weapon) so if you plan on already going at least rogue 3 you don't need the Fencing Grace feat.

[Cutlass Jack]

The main difference between the two is that Fencing Grace only works with one handed weapons and nothing in the off hand. In other words, you can't use Grace while dual wielding.

As long as you're only using a single one handed weapon either is fine. But you don't need both.

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Thank you very much guys!

[🫐ĿᐄṾᐄṆↁ3☈🫐]

Finesse Training only adds your Dex Bonus to your Atk Roll, NOT Damage roll.

[shadow_ hunter_ chris]

i mean i basicly do the Aldori Defender and only focuse on the sword, like i got my fighter hacking away at enemies like they were made of butter, does help that he got bloodhound one of the best swords in the game if you ask me, just that i also know how to get it rather early on with the use of a wizard

but if you got for a duelist, the just have rapier focuse, as you need to have a penetrateing bladed weapon like the rapier for a duelist, essentialy a duelist is a flanking melee character unlike an Aldori Defender who can take on enemies head on with realtive ease, well if your main character being my defender who got Onslaught, Bloodhound and alot of other lovely trinkets on which just makes his damage soar into the high heavens, well even if you don't use the strength it does help with carrying weight, and with a belt of physical perfect +8 then even more goodness, just that i don't know which sort of hat to use with it, but i have amazing dexterity with him.

but for a Duelist/sword saint is idk not an amazing combo, it is more of a Rouge into duelist sort of deal, that rouges with acomplished sneak attack can get some really good hits in if they flank enemies