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The Slayer
In short, why would I make a Slayer over something like a Fighter with a dip in Ranger for Favored Enemy? I know that Slayer is 100% more for focusing on specific types of enemies, but just how good are they?

Are they a high-tier class, or more a niche mid-tier?
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Pink Eye (Banned) Nov 10, 2019 @ 11:55am 
A slayer is basically a fighter; they get sneak attack dmg, rogue talents, a swift studied target that procs on sneak attack, and a couple of other neat things that escape me at the moment. Their subclasses also bring some rather interesting mechanics to the table. Deliverer trades in her advanced rogue talents for extra damage when studied target is successfully placed on a target.

>Are they a high-tier class, or more a niche mid-tier?
I think they are pretty good. Deliverer is my favorite. Try the class out, and experiment. They're not that bad at all.
Jackfrost Nov 10, 2019 @ 12:36pm 
Pink Eye already summed it up pretty well.
Slayers also get combat style feats like rangers do.
I'd say they are basically a mix between ranger and rogue, getting most of the good stuff both classes offer (except animal companion of course).
As with most classes there are surely multiclass builds around that do better but im pretty happy with my strenght-based shield bashing slayer right now...
Orange Nov 10, 2019 @ 3:36pm 
I would just like to add to what was previously said:

Its also a matter of level scaling, while you CAN make a fighter with a dip in ranger for that +2 against certain enemies, the Slayer can not only apply that damage to ANY enemy it will keep progressing up to +5 and 6d6 of sneak attack while you are still stuck at +2 against enemy type X plus fighter level - 1 features.
Last edited by Orange; Nov 10, 2019 @ 3:38pm
dwarner Nov 10, 2019 @ 10:10pm 
Studied Target is basically Weapon Training, so that's a wash.

Fighter is better in melee with the new free Feats from last DLC, Slayer at range. Slayer also gets Trapfinding (via Slayer Talent), Combat Style (unlike Ranger they're optional, so you can pick and choose - good way to get Shatter without having to bother with Display or Focus).
Originally posted by dwarner:
Studied Target is basically Weapon Training, so that's a wash.

Fighter is better in melee with the new free Feats from last DLC, Slayer at range. Slayer also gets Trapfinding (via Slayer Talent), Combat Style (unlike Ranger they're optional, so you can pick and choose - good way to get Shatter without having to bother with Display or Focus).

Which DLC? I'm poor, so I only own Tiefling Waifu DLC.
dwarner Nov 10, 2019 @ 10:47pm 
Originally posted by Queen Yuu The Succubus:
Originally posted by dwarner:
Studied Target is basically Weapon Training, so that's a wash.

Fighter is better in melee with the new free Feats from last DLC, Slayer at range. Slayer also gets Trapfinding (via Slayer Talent), Combat Style (unlike Ranger they're optional, so you can pick and choose - good way to get Shatter without having to bother with Display or Focus).

Which DLC? I'm poor, so I only own Tiefling Waifu DLC.

Should be included with EE.
Originally posted by dwarner:
Originally posted by Queen Yuu The Succubus:

Which DLC? I'm poor, so I only own Tiefling Waifu DLC.

Should be included with EE.

Good to know Varnhold and Rogue Like aren't locking me out of feats then. :')
Pink Eye (Banned) Nov 10, 2019 @ 10:50pm 
Wait. Doesn't Varnhold's Lot add extra fighter feats?
Originally posted by Pink Eye:
Wait. Doesn't Varnhold's Lot add extra fighter feats?

I smell a slap comin'. :sonya_sd:
Pink Eye (Banned) Nov 10, 2019 @ 11:00pm 
Nice try, but I have the power of anime and god on my side: https://owlcatgames.com/forums/showthread.php?6204-quot-Varnhold-s-Lot-quot-New-Class-Features-List

"By popular demand, here's a full list of new class features that the "Varnhold's Lot" DLC adds to the game! We're sorry we didn't tell you of this content earlier or more clearly - we've completely forgotten to mention this in the DLCs description. We've updated the info on Steam and elsewhere, and we'll try to do better in the future."
Originally posted by Pink Eye:
Nice try, but I have the power of anime and god on my side: https://owlcatgames.com/forums/showthread.php?6204-quot-Varnhold-s-Lot-quot-New-Class-Features-List

"By popular demand, here's a full list of new class features that the "Varnhold's Lot" DLC adds to the game! We're sorry we didn't tell you of this content earlier or more clearly - we've completely forgotten to mention this in the DLCs description. We've updated the info on Steam and elsewhere, and we'll try to do better in the future."

I HAVE THE POWER OF POWER-PLAYER ON MY SIDE!

But that's... a bit annoying since I wouldn't even touch the Varnhold story.
Pink Eye (Banned) Nov 10, 2019 @ 11:05pm 
Originally posted by Queen Yuu The Succubus:
Originally posted by Pink Eye:
Nice try, but I have the power of anime and god on my side: https://owlcatgames.com/forums/showthread.php?6204-quot-Varnhold-s-Lot-quot-New-Class-Features-List

"By popular demand, here's a full list of new class features that the "Varnhold's Lot" DLC adds to the game! We're sorry we didn't tell you of this content earlier or more clearly - we've completely forgotten to mention this in the DLCs description. We've updated the info on Steam and elsewhere, and we'll try to do better in the future."

I HAVE THE POWER OF POWER-PLAYER ON MY SIDE!

But that's... a bit annoying since I wouldn't even touch the Varnhold story.
Why though? Varnhold's Lot is one of their best expansions to the game. It took me weeks to beat it on unfair, it's freaking amazing.
Originally posted by Pink Eye:
Originally posted by Queen Yuu The Succubus:

I HAVE THE POWER OF POWER-PLAYER ON MY SIDE!

But that's... a bit annoying since I wouldn't even touch the Varnhold story.
Why though? Varnhold's Lot is one of their best expansions to the game. It took me weeks to beat it on unfair, it's freaking amazing.

Because Kanerah and Rogue-Like are more appealing. :sonya_sd:

That tail...
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