Best unarmed build

[superlovi]

Yo, lately i'm toying with some unarmed builds to find out wich is better

Unarmed combat have a lot of potential

- you can stack amulet of agi fist with weapon enanchment ability ( like magus/paladin). So you can get a +10 weapon.
- you can even stack magic fang on this (+15 weapon)
- you should get another +5 more with the LE monk robes ( not tested) -&> +20 weapon?
- with 1 level of monk you get +1 attack at max bab

- styles: crane for max AC, dragon style for more dmg ( badically you can treat unarmed like a two hander- the con is that you need lots of str to make it worth).
But the best is pummeling : at the moment it works removing all dmg reduction to your attaks after the first one. Pummeling charge is amazing, full attack at the end of a charge, usually istant kill for caters. If you pick a class with lots of feat even pummeling bully is awesome: free trip every full attack.

Your thoughts?

Atm a sword saint 18/ monk 2 or archeologist 16/17 rogue 3/4 are my best bets

[Pink Eye]

Whoops, I missed up. It's 16 Monk/ 4 Vivi.

[Pink Eye]

Looks like the monk 2/ 18 Vivi build is not very exciting...
Character sheet: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1911659350

It does mediocre damage...
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1911660114
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1911660436

It can buff itself though, so there's that.

[Pink Eye]

Well, it looks like that Dex/Int Sword Saint monk build is better. I reckon with buffs + haste + Legendary props + the broken loot you get in the main game = even more powerful Sword Saint monk.

[Pink Eye]

Huh. that's kind of interesting though. I never thought about making an unarmed build from sword saint. I think I found my new addiction.

[Viconia DeVir]

Power gamers.

[Pink Eye]

Actually I got one last unarmed build I would like to test out. 1 monk/ 19 fighter.

[superlovi]

If i can make another suggestion:

as an alchemist 18/monk 2

- you get much more going agi build ( alchem is only one who can buff his agility). Since pummeling style is better to a lot of reasons, you get same bonus to dmg with a str or agi build. But agi boost AC and reflex too, so is better.
- as a buff: cast reduce person BEFORE legendary proportion. So you will be huge and mantain +2 to dex. Legendary prop is a rare case in wich you don't get a minus agility modifier. Doing opposite will make you small.
- since high lvl mutagen gets you +8 agi, +6 str AND you will be huge most of time you get absolutely outstanding bonus to trip. You become better tripper in game. As an alchem you will get enough feats to trip/greater trip/ fury fall; pummeling style/bully/charge ; power attack/dazzling/shatter/courmagon smash.
-only alchemist special talents you need are greater mutagen line/ protect vital/mummification
- lot of sneak attack dices

Try this and you will surprised. Trip anything. And still good defences from invis/barskin/ transformation ecc. Only missing thing is mirror image

[Pink Eye]

Originally posted by superlovi:

If i can make another suggestion:

as an alchemist 18/monk 2

- you get much more going agi build ( alchem is only one who can buff his agility). Since pummeling style is better to a lot of reasons, you get same bonus to dmg with a str or agi build. But agi boost AC and reflex too, so is better.
- as a buff: cast reduce person BEFORE legendary proportion. So you will be huge and mantain +2 to dex. Legendary prop is a rare case in wich you don't get a minus agility modifier. Doing opposite will make you small.
- since high lvl mutagen gets you +8 agi, +6 str AND you will be huge most of time you get absolutely outstanding bonus to trip. You become better tripper in game. As an alchem you will get enough feats to trip/greater trip/ fury fall; pummeling style/bully/charge ; power attack/dazzling/shatter/courmagon smash.
-only alchemist special talents you need are greater mutagen line/ protect vital/mummification
- lot of sneak attack dices

Try this and you will surprised. Trip anything. And still good defences from invis/barskin/ transformation ecc. Only missing thing is mirror image

Ahh, that makes sense. Gotcha. I don't have much experience with vivi based builds.

[Pink Eye]

Meh. 1 monk/ 19 fighter is pretty meh.
Character sheet: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1911682550

It consistently deals 30 damage....
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1911683107

You can't buff yourself ether. It's pretty meh...

[Pink Eye]

Well. I'm going to start playing Sword Saints now, wtf.

[superlovi]

Originally posted by Pink Eye:

Actually I got one last unarmed build I would like to test out. 1 monk/ 19 fighter.

You will be despleased, since atm weapon training DON'T WORK with unarmed strike ( already tested both close weapon and natural attacks sub spec)

[Pink Eye]

Originally posted by superlovi:

Originally posted by Pink Eye:

Actually I got one last unarmed build I would like to test out. 1 monk/ 19 fighter.

You will be despleased, since atm weapon training DON'T WORK with unarmed strike ( already tested both close weapon and natural attacks sub spec)

Whhaaat.

[Mork]

Just to get the achievement .. i little bit over 150 :P

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1911688789

[Viconia DeVir]

Originally posted by Pink Eye:

Well. I'm going to start playing Sword Saints now, wtf.

Ahahaa the way you structured that, made me laugh. idk why though.

[Pink Eye]

Originally posted by Mork:

Just to get the achievement .. i little bit over 150 :P

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1911688789

What build is that?