Goblin, Kobold, Troll Quarters

[fefnir3284]

How do you get these buildings? SPECIFICS.
Hours of googling and I can find no data on it.
I always get goblins (because I support nok nok 100%), but how do i do the other two?
I would like the peace and love kobolds (good ones), and Jayzon trolls, not the troll king. Can I get jayzon? or are the trolls an evil choice.

please help.

[fefnir3284]

so noone knows?

[Jekko]

Trolls - You have to ally with the trolls in chapter 2
Kobolds - Ally with them in either chapter 1 or 2

[.O.]

Goblins, allow the goblins to live with you I think chapter 3?

Kobolds/Trolls you need to be chaotic, no sane Lawful person would ally with them. Also Kobolds/Trolls are mutually exclusive in Chapter 2

[Bob of Mage]

Originally posted by .O.:

Kobolds/Trolls you need to be chaotic, no sane Lawful person would ally with them. Also Kobolds/Trolls are mutually exclusive in Chapter 2

Untrue. You can ally with kobolds at at two different points, and you only need to do it once to unlock the building. During chapter 1 you just need to resolve the mite vs kobold plotline with the kobolds still on friendly terms (so side with the koblods, or take the N path that allows you find the truth without taking sides).

Also during the battle with the kobold and troll leaders the choice of who you can try to ally with depends on which one you kill first.

[dwarfpcfan]

Making friends with chief Sootscale at the Sycamore opens the kobold building. If you either side with Sootscale or help his tribe make peace with the Mites, you get access to the building.

Heck Linzi will even mention it after you defeat Tartuk, telling him that he's an idiot because his kobold followers could already have lived in your kingdom peacefully if they allied with you like Sootscale's tribe did (if you made friends with them)

[Shuen]

Originally posted by Bob of Mage:

Originally posted by .O.:

Kobolds/Trolls you need to be chaotic, no sane Lawful person would ally with them. Also Kobolds/Trolls are mutually exclusive in Chapter 2

Untrue. You can ally with kobolds at at two different points, and you only need to do it once to unlock the building. During chapter 1 you just need to resolve the mite vs kobold plotline with the kobolds still on friendly terms (so side with the koblods, or take the N path that allows you find the truth without taking sides).

Also during the battle with the kobold and troll leaders the choice of who you can try to ally with depends on which one you kill first.

How is it untrue? He didn't say you can't allie with kobolds on chapter 1. He just added bits of information that the dude before him missed.... You know, because he probably read stuff before commenting...

[Assassin]

Originally posted by Shuen:

Originally posted by Bob of Mage:

Untrue. You can ally with kobolds at at two different points, and you only need to do it once to unlock the building. During chapter 1 you just need to resolve the mite vs kobold plotline with the kobolds still on friendly terms (so side with the koblods, or take the N path that allows you find the truth without taking sides).

Also during the battle with the kobold and troll leaders the choice of who you can try to ally with depends on which one you kill first.

How is it untrue? He didn't say you can't allie with kobolds on chapter 1. He just added bits of information that the dude before him missed.... You know, because he probably read stuff before commenting...

He said they're were "mutually exclusive in Chapter 2", when they're not. You can get Kobolds in Chapter 1, hence why he was told it was untrue.

So as you say, "You know, because he probably read stuff before commenting..."

[ArchaicReaper]

Originally posted by Assassin:

Originally posted by Shuen:

How is it untrue? He didn't say you can't allie with kobolds on chapter 1. He just added bits of information that the dude before him missed.... You know, because he probably read stuff before commenting...

He said they're were "mutually exclusive in Chapter 2", when they're not. You can get Kobolds in Chapter 1, hence why he was told it was untrue.

So as you say, "You know, because he probably read stuff before commenting..."

They ARE mutually exclusive in Chapter 2. You can only ally with one of them, as you kill the other. You can ally with Kobolds in Chapter 1, but that isn't Chapter 2.

[Assassin]

Won't argue over wording. However, you don't need to be Chaotic to ally the Kobolds or mites in Chapter 1, that's just to get them to worship you. Allying with the Mites still count towards "Kobold" building. (tried and tested on CE mites/trolls playthrough).

Chapter 2 I'm pretty sure you only need to be Chaotic to side with the troll king and as all other information is outdated online siding with the trolls has been fixed. So by that I mean you will not be locked out of going back into the Dwarven ruins, you can revisit at any point in the future, and therefore not inherently failing Harrim's questline. You can both finish his quest, Jubilost's and collect any relics you may of missed.

Jayzon will take you to the King if you're "lawful?" I believe, not making him hostile inside after engaging with the trolls. However, choosing to go in manually can make him hostile but even if you kill him and the procced to ally with the troll king, he will be alive outside?? Definitely a bug, but a welcome one as Jayzon is cool.

Know it's a old thread, but thought I'd share my experience on outdated info