Pathfinder: Kingmaker

Pathfinder: Kingmaker

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dataseer21 Oct 3, 2019 @ 3:32pm
Better Romance Please
I heard this game had romances so I looked it up. I'm about mid to end of the game right now playing a wizard that ended up being lawful good(apparently that is my alignment I guess. I was originally chaotic neutral or lawful neutral). Anyway the romance options are bad. I don't agree with some people that say that the companions are bad. There are a lot of them that I really really like as characters. However the one that I kind of was bleh about is apparently the romance option for a straight male. The one for a female is bad but because of spoilers I won't get into(I have already gotten to that portion). Then the other this is a spoiler and I don't want to get into it I refuse because I don't mess with people that are already taken. Seriously Amiri is awesome and Linzi is like my fav(I don't like bards mechanically but I have taken her on the whole campaign because I like her personality). There were a couple of other npcs that I though you could romance but apparently you can't. Anyway this is if anyone with power in this game sees this I would like to romance other characters in the game. Even for a male option Harrim is cool.
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Pink Eye (Banned) Oct 3, 2019 @ 3:35pm 
I don't like romance at all. This isn't a dating simulator.
Timbermaw Oct 3, 2019 @ 3:37pm 
Romances in crpgs were a mistake
Pink Eye (Banned) Oct 3, 2019 @ 3:37pm 
Originally posted by Timbermaw:
Romances in crpgs were a mistake
Speaking the truth! Preach!
Viconia DeVir Oct 3, 2019 @ 3:40pm 
Originally posted by Timbermaw:
Romances in crpgs were a mistake
Agreed.
Triple G Oct 3, 2019 @ 4:45pm 
Originally posted by Timbermaw:
Romances in crpgs were a mistake
Romances in general are a mistake.
Dixon Sider Oct 3, 2019 @ 4:51pm 
IDK how romances work in this game in extreme detail, but one thing I love about this game is how I am able to play the game without even knowing romance options exist. This game literally has the best romance options out of any game I ever played because it took me 500 hours to even find out they exist (I found out on the forums, not in game). No game has ever done such a good job at adding romance options but not making me suffer through them before.
Last edited by Dixon Sider; Oct 3, 2019 @ 4:52pm
Pink Eye (Banned) Oct 3, 2019 @ 4:52pm 
Originally posted by Dixon Sider:
IDK how romances work in this game in extreme detail, but one thing I love about this game is how I am able to play the game without even knowing romance options exist. This game literally has the best romance options out of any game I ever played because it took me 500 hours to even find out they exist (I found out on the forums, not in game). No game has ever done such a good job at adding romance options but not making me suffer through them before.
Heey, long time no see. How's your day.
Last edited by Pink Eye; Oct 3, 2019 @ 4:52pm
Dixon Sider Oct 3, 2019 @ 4:52pm 
Originally posted by Ghandi Wargamer:
Romances in general are a mistake.
I think you are right
dataseer21 Oct 3, 2019 @ 4:54pm 
Romances are a mistake is plot a mistake too or any type of character development? A romance is just character development for a character.
Dixon Sider Oct 3, 2019 @ 4:54pm 
Originally posted by Pink Eye:
Heey, long time no see. How's your day.
Long AF lol. I got kinda screwed on my work commute, so now I only have like 1.5-2 hours per weekday to relax if I go to the gym.
Dixon Sider Oct 3, 2019 @ 4:55pm 
Originally posted by dataseer21:
Romances are a mistake is plot a mistake too or any type of character development? A romance is just character development for a character.
He meant in general lol
Pink Eye (Banned) Oct 3, 2019 @ 4:55pm 
Originally posted by Dixon Sider:
Originally posted by Pink Eye:
Heey, long time no see. How's your day.
Long AF lol. I got kinda screwed on my work commute, so now I only have like 1.5-2 hours per weekday to relax if I go to the gym.
Ouch, well I'm glad you're doing fine.
Dixon Sider Oct 3, 2019 @ 4:57pm 
Originally posted by Pink Eye:
Ouch, well I'm glad you're doing fine.
Thanks. Goodluck with the rest of your playthrough. Make sure to finish it this time lol
Pink Eye (Banned) Oct 3, 2019 @ 4:58pm 
Originally posted by Dixon Sider:
Originally posted by Pink Eye:
Ouch, well I'm glad you're doing fine.
Thanks. Goodluck with the rest of your playthrough. Make sure to finish it this time lol
xD
I just finished Pitax chapter not too long ago. Haflway there :)
Triple G Oct 3, 2019 @ 7:50pm 
Originally posted by dataseer21:
Romances are a mistake is plot a mistake too or any type of character development? A romance is just character development for a character.
How to put it? Erm. Let´s say because of stories and tales - plots - people think that romances somehow work - and vice versa. But because people also think it´s just part of the character development, with their own vision about it, to get their own advantage out of it - it doesn´t work very well - most of the time - for a longer period. Still people believe in this - or get married. That´s probably a mistake. And if i´ve got the option in game to have a romance - i don´t think about the first weeks or months - which are probably nice. (But imho the most important part of it is missing in any game because of adult content - and it would be somehow not the same anyway) I think more about that what´s after that. And no - i want to enjoy the game and not have some arguments about - anything which isn´t fun at all. Like
"Can´t we do this?"
"Won´t we buy that?"
"What about children?"
That´s the middle part - which is halfway ok, because it´s at least about "us" or "we" - even though one talked about those things earlier. But then usually the
"Why don´t You do (anything)?"
or - this happens everytime:
"I always do this (even if i don´t want to) - now i want You to do that"
starts and for me that´s exactly the moment to end that relationship, because i already talked about that exact sentence in the very beginning - always.

The "good" "romance" option in the game is imho the question of Octavia if we want to relax in the bedroom.
"Yes - lead the way - but it´s just about that relax-part. Not about some "relationship", is it? We have a good time, enjoy each other - and if we want to do something else we do something else - did i got that right? Not exactly "forever" or "just this night" - we´ll see. Right?"
(The last part is missing, but i added that for myself in my head.)
And if it would be like RL too - she would have said something like:
"Yes, of course. I´m totally with You there. It´s so nice - everything i ever dreamed of..."
Then - two months later:
Me: "Hey, erm - what´s wrong? Is everything ok?"
She: "Things have changed...."

So if a romance would be implemented correctly - it´s not so much about You developing Your character. It´s about someone else wants to develop Your character. In some random way You couldn´t anticipate. Would You like to have that option in game - even if it sounds funny, because it´s really the same pattern everytime? Instead of some nice statement when You click on the pics - You hear something like:
"We need to do this and that tomorrow, because i want to...."
"I want You to spend more time with me..."
"Why always that monster hunter thing? Can´t we just relax for an hour?"

(and then the screen turns into one big clock which ticks down second by second and You can´t do anything - You´re literally forced to spend time with a virtual romance - and she starts talking about her day (the same stuff she told You yesterday - and the day before...) - asks different questions, talks about random things and You have Your dialog options:
"Yes."
"Aha..."
"Hmhm."
"I understand."
"Sure."
(There option to end the dialog is missing, but it´s no bug)
Then there´s that other question:
"What did i say last?"
If You give the wrong answer You loose one level - permanently - You need to regain the XP - and no - there´s no gain for the right answer, but she won´t ask that question every time she talks to You. It´s somehow random You think, but it´s depending on what choices You picked in the rest of the dialog - so You can avoid the question if You listen closely - and choose the right answers.)

(It could be that things are a bit different depending where You come from of course - but usually the reasons for that are not that the idea of a romance is different. And no - it could also work the other way around - that wasn´t about men or women - and who is better or worse. Even not about men+women vs. homosexual relationships. It´s about "Romances" from my point of view. For some women it´s sometimes even worse - involving violence / force / laws, so the men can reach their goals against her will - legally.)
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Date Posted: Oct 3, 2019 @ 3:32pm
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