Scroll Savant and Clever Wordplay (pragmatic)

[Malleable]

So I'm thinking of trying out a Scroll Savant (eventually an Arcane Trickster) and looking at the trait Clever Wordplay which lets you use your intelligence rather than charisma for Use Magical Device.
Do Scroll Savants still use charisma for UMD, and that includes scrolls?

If so, it seems like this trait would be extremely beneficial.

Thanks,
Mal

[Mork]

Clever wordplay? what is that??

Scroll savant get a really good feat at level 10. Trickster get their best feat at level 10. Those 2 classes don't mix well together.

Try a evil 20 scroll savant universalist,
CC master that can empower(univeralist ability) + maximize(rod) a lot faster then anyone else and become the best healer in the game, for a price.

Trickster are probably better as Thassilonian Specialist evocation + 1 lvl of vivisectionist, If you want to focus on damage and rogue skills.

[Mork]

As for UMD with scroll savant, staring at 10 cha + boosting int/cha item is more then enough for them to never fail a scroll. They get a feat that make them never roll lower then 10.

Without any bonus, 24+10 = 34 UMD minimum
Use a scroll 20 + caster level
Use a wand 20

[Malleable]

Mork,
So when you say boosting int/cha, do scroll savants use int or charisma for using a scroll? Or both?
With the trait Clever Wordplay, he would use Int instead of Charisma, so I would lower my charisma to 7 since I am already maxing int.

Mal

[Mork]

It use Cha for umd.

Is clever Wordplay from a mod?

[Malleable]

Mork,
Yeah. Its a Trait, so the mod implemented them.

Mal

[Mork]

Originally posted by Malleable:

Mork,
Yeah. Its a Trait, so the mod implemented them.

Mal

I see.. it will help for the first few levels and become overkill later.

[Malleable]

ok, thanks mork