Pathfinder: Kingmaker

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How good is not-the-best ending?
I mean, I wanted to play this game (have it on GOG by the way) but at the same time Im really into getting best endings in games. However, according to guides section here, to get best ending I would need to basically follow very strict path with little options to get off from, many chances to completely screw up and most importantly - completely and utterly spoiler myself everything.

So I kindly ask - is it really worth it?
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Pink Eye (Banned) Sep 26, 2019 @ 1:56pm 
No. Don't put your pee pee in green moss, it's not worth it.
dwarner Sep 26, 2019 @ 2:00pm 
It's not that crazy. Just be nice, keep up on your skills, and research some curses.
Mork Sep 26, 2019 @ 2:07pm 
The 'best' ending for me, is to not save her for all she have done....
Dixon Sider Sep 26, 2019 @ 2:08pm 
Originally posted by Mork:
The 'best' ending for me, is to not save her for all she have done....
Ya, I cant imagine marrying a plant as the best ending. Its a comical easter egg. But "best" is an opinion
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Pink Eye (Banned) Sep 26, 2019 @ 2:09pm 
Originally posted by dwarner:
It's not that crazy. Just be nice, keep up on your skills, and research some curses.
A total of 13 curses has to be researched if I remember right.
According to short summary posted here, it require romancing certain character (I hate romances in games, especially since I play female characters if given chance), guide-dang-it three encounters and two quests (to prevent her from finding certain item before you do) and researching projects which blocks others because of time limits.

Just want to know if going blind or semi-blind wouldnt end with "congratulations, you are most evil person in the world because you didnt check guides for unforseen consequences" kind of ending.
Mork Sep 26, 2019 @ 2:28pm 
Originally posted by Sabi The Worst Player Ever:
According to short summary posted here, it require romancing certain character (I hate romances in games, especially since I play female characters if given chance), guide-dang-it three encounters and two quests (to prevent her from finding certain item before you do) and researching projects which blocks others because of time limits.

Just want to know if going blind or semi-blind wouldnt end with "congratulations, you are most evil person in the world because you didnt check guides for unforseen consequences" kind of ending.

As long as you take care of you companions and you are not the most evil person in the Stolen land, you will get a good ending.
dwarner Sep 26, 2019 @ 2:58pm 
Originally posted by Pink Eye:
Originally posted by dwarner:
It's not that crazy. Just be nice, keep up on your skills, and research some curses.
A total of 13 curses has to be researched if I remember right.

That’s what they say. I’m always running out since I use them to keep Harrim and Octavia busy.
dwarner Sep 26, 2019 @ 3:02pm 
Originally posted by Sabi The Worst Player Ever:
According to short summary posted here, it require romancing certain character (I hate romances in games, especially since I play female characters if given chance), guide-dang-it three encounters and two quests (to prevent her from finding certain item before you do) and researching projects which blocks others because of time limits.

Just want to know if going blind or semi-blind wouldnt end with "congratulations, you are most evil person in the world because you didnt check guides for unforseen consequences" kind of ending.

I’ll post more if I can ever finish a game but my understanding is it just requires passing a few Knowledge/Lore checks in dialogues after Chapter quests and choosing helpful dialogue options in talking to the Druid. You’ve got time to research curses and do everything else.
Pink Eye (Banned) Sep 26, 2019 @ 3:06pm 
Originally posted by dwarner:
Originally posted by Sabi The Worst Player Ever:
According to short summary posted here, it require romancing certain character (I hate romances in games, especially since I play female characters if given chance), guide-dang-it three encounters and two quests (to prevent her from finding certain item before you do) and researching projects which blocks others because of time limits.

Just want to know if going blind or semi-blind wouldnt end with "congratulations, you are most evil person in the world because you didnt check guides for unforseen consequences" kind of ending.

I’ll post more if I can ever finish a game but my understanding is it just requires passing a few Knowledge/Lore checks in dialogues after Chapter quests and choosing helpful dialogue options in talking to the Druid. You’ve got time to research curses and do everything else.
I'm actually on Chapter 4 with my unfair run. I might finish soon. Trying to do the "secret" ending. So far I think I'm doing okay. I managed to get a dream sequence with green moss lady after chapter 3 I think.
Also
>You’ve got time to research curses and do everything else.
Is correct. There is a lot of downtime to get those curse research done and level up your Divine/Arcana stats. I think I've done a bunch already, too bad I don't know how many.
BlackSilver Sep 26, 2019 @ 3:22pm 
While killing the mossy hole could be to your liking, and you do kill her "boss" as well at the end, though it's immortal by nature since it's soul is tied to the First World, the secret ending might actually inflict a deeper "death" on the Lantern King since the curse you put on it is death itself, so in essence it's an unending cycle of death, rebirth, and on and on, until probably it begs Pharasma for release of the curse.
Saxton Sep 26, 2019 @ 3:59pm 
It's not really the "best" ending. It's an "extra" ending the devs added that's not in the original source material. One the one hand, it's nice that they expanded on that part of the story, which honestly is a little oddly done in the Kingmaker AP. On the other hand, unless you're playing a very specific type of character, it takes some highly convoluted thinking to even want to go down that path after prior interactions you have with the nymph.

Someone posted it as the "true ending" and now a lot of people think that's what they should be trying to achieve in the end. You don't need to - just play out what your character would do.

dwarner Sep 26, 2019 @ 4:48pm 
Originally posted by rbaker78:
It's not really the "best" ending. It's an "extra" ending the devs added that's not in the original source material. One the one hand, it's nice that they expanded on that part of the story, which honestly is a little oddly done in the Kingmaker AP. On the other hand, unless you're playing a very specific type of character, it takes some highly convoluted thinking to even want to go down that path after prior interactions you have with the nymph.

Someone posted it as the "true ending" and now a lot of people think that's what they should be trying to achieve in the end. You don't need to - just play out what your character would do.

Good advice. If you read closely it’s not hard to develop some sympathy for her plight but I wouldn’t blame anyone for Defending the True World by opening up a can on any and all Fae.
jsaving Sep 26, 2019 @ 6:19pm 
If you play the game as a nice/compassionate character, pursue none of the joinable NPCs and research curses as they come up, you do not need to consult a guide to get the secret ending. It will come almost automatically. And if you role-play nearly any other kind of character, it won't make much sense to get the secret ending anyway as you'd have to constantly bend your principles to see a last chapter that... is actually among the dullest parts of the game.
haplok Sep 26, 2019 @ 11:31pm 
You don't need to follow the "secret" ending to see Chapter 7.
You can fight the "true" boss without romancing the adversary.

Not that it will be a lasting victory as he's immortal... but at least he promises to leave you be.

It's actually.. difficult to imagine a lawful character being so merciful and forgiving, as to ally (and romance!) the villain responsible for of all the curses and catastrophes that have befallen your land and mutilated your subjects...

Other endings are just fine.
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