Sentimental Shooter

[Tsuna]

How does this game compares to the classic shooter it took inspiration from?

[ThreeSon]

I didn't even know what game you were talking about when I first saw your post, but finally found some footage of it. I've never played Sentimental Shooting before and it looks very difficult to find a copy now unfortunately.

At the least, I think the music is better in this game. Otherwise they seem very similar.

[Firewarlord 2]

Some question, I played sentimental shooter long time ago. And was a very funny game, hope this one to be similar.

[Tsuna]

Originally posted by ThreeSon:

I didn't even know what game you were talking about when I first saw your post, but finally found some footage of it. I've never played Sentimental Shooting before and it looks very difficult to find a copy now unfortunately.

At the least, I think the music is better in this game. Otherwise they seem very similar.

Well I hardly believe you can acquire the game by legal means. It was a very simple yet challenging shooter.

Originally posted by Ariel:

Some question, I played sentimental shooter long time ago. And was a very funny game, hope this one to be similar.

I just hope the Deep Space Waifu developers aren't plagiarizing the classic, you know. Everything looks so identical to Sentimental Shooting, even the power-ups. I'd like to compare the position of the girls' breakable clothing hitboxes to check if their position are the same of the original. That would be enough evidence.



If the devs can shed some light into this matter, I'd be very grateful.

[ThreeSon]

Originally posted by Tsunnen:

I just hope the Deep Space Waifu developers aren't plagiarizing the classic, you know. Everything looks so identical to Sentimental Shooting, even the power-ups. I'd like to compare the position of the girls' breakable clothing hitboxes to check if their position are the same of the original. That would be enough evidence.

Plagarizing is not an issue here. The two weapon power-ups are the same (missle and homing laser), and the general objective is the same, but everything else - the theme, the music, the artwork, and yes also the girls' clothing hitboxes - is completely different. So many shmups have so much more similarity to one another compared to these two games.

I very much doubt the SS developer - While - would have a problem with this. I don't even know if they are still around at this point; there's no website or anything like that for them still up. If they are still around, I'd love to see them update SS so that it runs on modern PCs and then release it on Steam also.

[Tsuna]

Yeah bro, I tried to find something into While too but, just like you, got no useful results. . Anyway, I'm not a SJW or anything, I'm glad DSW is around to keep us entertained.

I MIGHT have a copy of SS in some old HDD, made it run with some minor bugs on win7 (music was all ♥♥♥♥♥♥ up), will try to get it to run on win10 sometime.

[WADEV]

Hey! =)
yes, we are hugeass fans of SS.
Since SS is discontinued back in 2004, i aways wanted a modern successor for modern machines.
We don't try to fix whats is not broken, because we also love the casual gameplay of SS.

So it's our love letter to that awesome combination. =)

in the next installment or dlc we plan to take a more authorship approach with mechanics of shmmup and new ideas with the dating girls with guns experience, but we are reading here what you guys like and dislike in the gameplay and visuals first.

thank you guys! =)

[ThreeSon]

Originally posted by Tsunnen:

I MIGHT have a copy of SS in some old HDD, made it run with some minor bugs on win7 (music was all ♥♥♥♥♥♥ up), will try to get it to run on win10 sometime.

I'm still on Windows 7 and managed to find a copy of the game and get it running. No music as you said - I wish there were some way to get that working.

Playing through the first couple stages of SS - the gameplay is much more satisfying to me (I play a lot of shmups). It's considerably more challenging than DSW, and the bullet patterns are better.

The girls' artwork also looks better to me in SS, surprisingly given the age of the game, and there also seems to be more of it. There's actually two scenes per stage, the first is for the general enemies and then if all the clothes are removed in time, it switches to a second scene for the boss fight.

DSW has better presentation overall though - the music and menus and such. And the easier difficulty helps it appeal to more people.

[ThreeSon]

Originally posted by Hammerfist_studios:

Hey! =)
yes, we are hugeass fans of SS.
Since SS is discontinuated back in 2004, i aways want a modern sucessor for modern machines.
We don't try to fix whats is not broken, because we also love the casual gameplay of SS.

So it's our love letter to that awesome combination. =)

in the next instalment or dlc we plan to take a more authorship aproach with mechanics of shmmup and new ideas with the dating girls with guns experience, but we are reading here what you guys like and dislike in the gameplay and visuals first.

thank you guys! =)

I'm very grateful you all created and released DSW here on Steam. I enjoyed it all the way through and I would've never even known about SS otherwise. I really hope you guys decide to make a follow-up game sometime.

[WADEV]

Sad to hear that SS has better artwork girls, need to improve myself next time. =)
We made one pose because we think the 2 poses approach break the immersion of discovering the waifu.

what you guys think? =D

[ThreeSon]

Originally posted by Hammerfist_studios:

Sad to hear that SS has better artwork girls, need to improve myself next time. =)
We made one pose because we think the 2 poses approach break the immersion of discovering the waifu.

what you guys think? =D

Don't be sad, that's just my one opinion and what do I know. You did good work.

The reason the artwork in SS seemed better to me is because there is a lot more of it - each girl has two unique poses (I think). But in DSW there are only about 4 poses total shared among all 10 girls. But I know that more artwork takes more time and costs more money, so I understand why it would be hard to make more for a $2 game.

I do think it's not necessary to have a second separate pose for the boss fights - You are right that it does break immersion.

Also the animation in DSW is really nice (hair, eyes, etc), which SS does not have.

[WADEV]

yes! need to make more poses now =) definitely!

[ThreeSon]

If you did create more poses, I would happily pay for them as DLC.

[Tsuna]

@Hammerfist_studios

Whoaaa actual dev is here!

I still got to buy your game, really looking forward to it since I'm a fan of schmups and SS as well. I believe that adding more content into DSW as free updates would increase its overall value instead of releasing DLCs. I don't mind paying for DLC as long as the game is good, but the core elements of the game have to provide enough for the experience. That's just my opinion.

I believe you can make the "next SS" and really estabilsh DSW as a spiritual sucessor if you work on stuff that needs polishing and add more content like higher difficulties, more girls and poses.

Thanks for participating in our discussion. I will make sure to buy this game and give it a proper review in time =)

[WADEV]

Planing free stuff here actually. I would love tips from SS players. =)

[ThreeSon]

Originally posted by Hammerfist_studios:

Planing free stuff here actually. I would love tips from SS players. =)

That's very generous for you to release free content. :)